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4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by uzdnabuzd »

Northside 4x4 wrote:
moddedgu wrote:
Northside 4x4 wrote:Moddedgu - Can you please reword that last post?
Please explain???? What do you mean by that reply?

In simple terms how do we see pics or drawings of what you've mentioned in your last few posts!!!!!! Like you said you made some phone calls and in 15mins your supplier has confirmed what you were asking him to get in actual fact are available. Forged pitons, knife edge crank, custom girdles, all of these ideas. I guess my question is can anyone buy these mentioned items or would they have to be made etc.
Is that reworded enough?
Dont take it the wrong way mate. I wasnt having a dig. Read the first post slowly and you will see, it wasnt worded very well for others to read .

The answer is, the parts are not yet made (as I said, they will be built, not off the shelf). They will be custom forged and cnc parts, so no people wont be able to buy them yet. Once the cnc program has been written for the parts, I could get them remade to exact specs and sell them I guess. I wouldnt think to many people out there would bother with it though, or want to spend the amount it would cost anyway.

I would like to see the shop that builds these parts for the TD42 Uzdnabuzd.
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I can forward you all the info when i get back from overseas. I am not back for another month. All parts have already been made for a guy in south america so the R&D and the expensive costs have already been done.
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

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Northside you can talk the talk but can u walk the walk. Your S--T stinks just like everyone else time to get on with the job and show what you cant do.

Can you answer my question now oh thats rite you dont answer anybodys do you.
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by 4wheelinls1 »

I've been using a simple means of controlling EGTS with Auber EGT pyro for a number of years, simply with a solenoid to bleed the boost off the aneroid. It allows easy protection although a bit crude a lot cheaper that an e-boost. I fitted the device on my GU TD42 that was stock internals and making 195 rwkw with SAE J1349 on a DTS ProDyne. I have done quite a number since due to it being inexpensive and effective.
I believe I could have acheived 300HP at the wheels from that vehicle but it would not have been sustainable. Without a reasonable service life it's just a dyno mule.

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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by Northside 4x4 »

4wheelinls1 wrote:I've been using a simple means of controlling EGTS with Auber EGT pyro for a number of years, simply with a solenoid to bleed the boost off the aneroid. It allows easy protection although a bit crude a lot cheaper that an e-boost. I fitted the device on my GU TD42 that was stock internals and making 195 rwkw with SAE J1349 on a DTS ProDyne. I have done quite a number since due to it being inexpensive and effective.
I believe I could have acheived 300HP at the wheels from that vehicle but it would not have been sustainable. Without a reasonable service life it's just a dyno mule.

Cheers

Joel
Good info. The only reason I used the eboost as the example was due to the fact that you can vary the amount of boost bled off from zero to 100%.

http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_ ... ex&cPath=5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; the one you use?
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by jbates58 »

Northside 4x4 wrote:
4wheelinls1 wrote:I've been using a simple means of controlling EGTS with Auber EGT pyro for a number of years, simply with a solenoid to bleed the boost off the aneroid. It allows easy protection although a bit crude a lot cheaper that an e-boost. I fitted the device on my GU TD42 that was stock internals and making 195 rwkw with SAE J1349 on a DTS ProDyne. I have done quite a number since due to it being inexpensive and effective.
I believe I could have acheived 300HP at the wheels from that vehicle but it would not have been sustainable. Without a reasonable service life it's just a dyno mule.

Cheers

Joel
Good info. The only reason I used the eboost as the example was due to the fact that you can vary the amount of boost bled off from zero to 100%.

http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_ ... ex&cPath=5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; the one you use?

with those gauges, can it be used to moniter multiple sensors, and scroll througth them? like, display boost, then egt, then water temp, then the nex thing and so on? i read the site, and it only says it cant do it simultaneously?

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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by jbates58 »

come on guys, surley somebody can answer my question.

can the auber gauges be used to monitor multiple things, and scroll through them, or am i able to fit an electric timer type thing to scroll the connected probe?

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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by Josh n Kat »

as far as i'm aware no, only one at a time.

I've got one set up as a pyro and haven't had a single darma with it. Very happy with it still to this day
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by thehanko »

lol, i thought you could. the beauty of the net is that you can always get any answer - best bet is to email the auber guy, he is good with customer service and technical questions.

1 monitor can definitely monitor a number of different things - as to being able to monitor them at the same time i dont know. but i think yes as they are used in process work as well where they have to monitor a range of parameters and effect changes as needed. i.e have a egt which at 600 deg sends a signal for your methanol injection to kick in.
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by Josh n Kat »

[quote="thehanko"]lol, i thought you could. the beauty of the net is that you can always get any answer - best bet is to email the auber guy, he is good with customer service and technical questions.

1 monitor can definitely monitor a number of different things - as to being able to monitor them at the same time i dont know. but i think yes as they are used in process work as well where they have to monitor a range of parameters and effect changes as needed. i.e have a egt which at 600 deg sends a signal for your methanol injection to kick in.[/quote]

oh yeah sorry. you can get them to monitor things other then egt's or boost.

But you can only use one unit per sensor.

I do like the switching ability they have thou like you mentioned. i've got mine setup to have a rather loud and annoying beeper go off at 550 degree's
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by Northside 4x4 »

Look no further Jason

http://www.plxdevices.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

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Any update on the build by the way?
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

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Northside 4x4 wrote:Look no further Jason

http://www.plxdevices.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

whilst that looks and sounds cool, how do i interface it with my old td42 engine? there is no obd system on the engine.
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by Northside 4x4 »

jbates58 wrote:
Northside 4x4 wrote:Look no further Jason

http://www.plxdevices.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

whilst that looks and sounds cool, how do i interface it with my old td42 engine? there is no obd system on the engine.
The PLX devices can read independant sensors. EGT/Boost etc..
Much like the Defi gauge controller unit reads alot of signals, records them and can replay alot of data through a laptop or back onto the gauges.
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by jbates58 »

Northside 4x4 wrote:
jbates58 wrote:
Northside 4x4 wrote:Look no further Jason

http://www.plxdevices.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

whilst that looks and sounds cool, how do i interface it with my old td42 engine? there is no obd system on the engine.
The PLX devices can read independant sensors. EGT/Boost etc..
Much like the Defi gauge controller unit reads alot of signals, records them and can replay alot of data through a laptop or back onto the gauges.

from what i can gatehr from that site, it only supports the OBD and OBD II. it mentions nothing of external sensors or computers.
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by KiwiBacon »

So, who's going to post pics of a ZD30 and TD42 piston and head next to each other? Given nissans habits of standardisation and the bores matching, I'm wondering if other key dimensions may also match.

Could the ZD30 have started life as a 4 cylinder direct injection TD42?
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by moddedgu »

KiwiBacon wrote:So, who's going to post pics of a ZD30 and TD42 piston and head next to each other? Given nissans habits of standardisation and the bores matching, I'm wondering if other key dimensions may also match.

Could the ZD30 have started life as a 4 cylinder direct injection TD42?
Isn't the 2.7Turbo diesel exactly the same minus 2 cylinders?? (Terrano)
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

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moddedgu wrote:
KiwiBacon wrote:So, who's going to post pics of a ZD30 and TD42 piston and head next to each other? Given nissans habits of standardisation and the bores matching, I'm wondering if other key dimensions may also match.

Could the ZD30 have started life as a 4 cylinder direct injection TD42?
Isn't the 2.7Turbo diesel exactly the same minus 2 cylinders?? (Terrano)
Yeah, I was just trying to stay on the 4.2 topic. ;)
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by moddedgu »

I''ve heard heaps about 12mm plunger pumps and what they can do as far as getting the TD42 oiler going , but recently there is a lot of talk about even bigger plunger and cam plate setups that allow huge fuel delivery. I guess the whole object is to get the right pump setup, turbo and intake setup, exhaust setup, without having to spend bulk dollars on engine work to achieve power gains.

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Post by 1MadEngineer »

moddedgu wrote:I''ve heard heaps about 12mm plunger pumps and what they can do as far as getting the TD42 oiler going , but recently there is a lot of talk about even bigger plunger and cam plate setups that allow huge fuel delivery. I guess the whole object is to get the right pump setup, turbo and intake setup, exhaust setup, without having to spend bulk dollars on engine work to achieve power gains.

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It doesn't appear to be fuel limiting power, it's air. More fuel would just let these guys make thicker blacker smoke.
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4v per cylinder? :D
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

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ZD42TT :armsup:
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

Post by Northside 4x4 »

jbates58 wrote:
Northside 4x4 wrote:
jbates58 wrote:
Northside 4x4 wrote:Look no further Jason

http://www.plxdevices.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

whilst that looks and sounds cool, how do i interface it with my old td42 engine? there is no obd system on the engine.
The PLX devices can read independant sensors. EGT/Boost etc..
Much like the Defi gauge controller unit reads alot of signals, records them and can replay alot of data through a laptop or back onto the gauges.

from what i can gatehr from that site, it only supports the OBD and OBD II. it mentions nothing of external sensors or computers.
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KiwiBacon wrote:It doesn't appear to be fuel limiting power, it's air. More fuel would just let these guys make thicker blacker smoke.
maybe a whipple? ;)
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

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More air?
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

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Anyone got any updates on the build? Very keen to see some results.
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How is your build going ?
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Re: 4.2 Injector pump for Big HP

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Northside 4x4 wrote:Anyone got any updates on the build? Very keen to see some results.



Yep the build is going real well.
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