Surf update

Post by **Surfection** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 6:39 pm

Better than it was before matey !!!!
And besides........ who gives a fark what it drives like on the road. It's for Off the Road !! :twisted:

Post by **Orange** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:23 pm

Very nice mod, very nice indeed.

Makes me want to put solid axle in the front of my 4Runner and jack her up

Post by **ToNkA** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:27 pm

Orange wrote:Just a question

What will this be like on the road?

DUDE, don't ask such a thing. :shock:

Post by **Orange** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:32 pm

Well I may be mistaken, but he has to drive it on road to get it anywhere.

It's a reasonable question

Post by **Surfection** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:36 pm

Makes me want to put solid axle in the front of my 4Runner and jack her up

Do it !!! Can be done for under 3 grand fairly easily....depending on what goodies you want to run under there. You'll never look back, and you'll look a bit different from all these WEIRDO hilux drivers getting around !!
:silly:

Post by **bogged** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:40 pm

Orange wrote:Well I may be mistaken, but he has to drive it on road to get it anywhere.

It's a reasonable question

To those hardcore people around here its not... They tow it there, or fly.... :s

Post by **Surfection** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:47 pm

Tonka was joking orange, you can ask any question you want here !!
It should drive pretty good, the geometry is pretty well spot on, and the lower arms are adjustable to allow for finite adjustments. I knew it would never drive the same again when i had the solid front end done, but that was a sacrifice i was and still am, willing to make. The reason for the trucks existance is purely for fufilling my 4wding 'habit' so it's more important to me how it goes off road than on. If you're in sydney i'd be happy to take you for a ride some day. cheers, Jeremy

Post by **Orange** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:59 pm

I am in Brisbane un-fortunatly, would love to see it in the flesh though. I haven't seen anything like that up here. I can't beleive the suspension travel you get out of it .... as I said, impressive.

Here I was thinking if I got some swaybay disconnections I would be doing well

Post by **bubs** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:03 pm

orange

the most hard core rigs come from QLD dude 8)

Post by **Orange** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:09 pm

You get awesome wheel travel out of the front to man.

And now I see why you have such a sweet car ... You work for Chaos 4X4 Engineering?

Post by **NICK** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:10 pm

orange dont get out much :finger:

Post by **Orange** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:13 pm

Yeah I only just bought my first 4WD about 5 weeks ago. It's a 93 4Runner V6.

I grew up in weipa, and was around 4 wheel drives alot up there, but haven't owned one till now. Having a lot of fun in it, but I have already felt first hand it's limited ability off road.

I am looking at ways to improve it's capability ... not sure I am ready for a 4 link rear though

Post by **GRUNTLESS** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:14 pm

na he works for GRUNTLESS no travel a frame rear ends :finger:

mate just do the solid front you wont look back best thing i've done with mine

Post by **Surfection** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:38 pm

Nah dude i don't work for chaos, they did the solid front swap on the surf for me...... that was last year though, if i could go back to then i would do the swap myself, i now think it's always better doing things yourself, you get much more experience and satisfaction doing it yourself, even though it might end up costing you the same in the end due to trial and error you have still 'Built Not Bought' .
Also, that rear end is a 3 link, 4 link is with the two upper links mounted seperatly ontop of the diff.
Any 4runner info just PM me, i'd be happy to share what i know about getting the most of the IFS.

Post by **Punchy** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:44 pm

Whats the "average" cost of those double coil spring shockers worth..
Would i be wrong in assuming that they are just a uni-fit type unit given the extensive nature of the modification..?
Do they have "rate" adjustments like that of racho 9000's ?..

I've got a 75 series tray which i've bob tailed etc etc but havent gone to the expense of the major suspension mods or upgrades yet. It still resides on its factory modified (now rooted) springs and shocks.

I also have a turbo diesle 80 series wagon that i have used as my first rock hopper (nothing to the extent of the outerlimits crew..I went out one day with them mid last year and i just parked my red 80 and watched strange rover, BJ ,boatlux going the honky).. Any ways having seen and felt the capabilites of the coils sprung truck, I would like to convert the 75 in a said similar manner.. But if im gonna do it..I'm not going to do some half arsed attempt at it... So the pics and photos that you guys are posting up of your mods on various truck are preemo for this mechanic (with fitter and turner in tow) to start thinking of which direction to go in..
Cheers for the info in advance

Like I've said to santa on many occasions...gimme 20 minutes and a grinder, and ill make it fit !

Post by **GRUNTLESS** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:48 pm

mate there a rancho rs 9000 with a coil over setup on them :wink:

surfection will have prices

Post by **cplux** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:50 pm

correct me if i'm wrong jeremy but the inner of the coilovers is a modded rs9000 correct?? modded with mounts for coilover

Post by **cplux** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:51 pm

just beat me Travis

Post by **Surfection** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:52 pm

Those coilovers are actually rancho 9012's with new eyes welded on top and bottom and a threaded adjuster and stuff like that. You will have to speak to chaos about pricing. Megaman [trailcraft] and Cheezy are now doing coilovers with more travel and personally i think stronger than the ones i am running, so have a chat to them as well, and since you are in queensland i would talk to kings springs about springs. Do a search on 'coilovers' and you will come up with some decent info.

Post by **Orange** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 9:00 pm

Hanging around these forums makes me want to spend a lot more money then I have ... not good

Post by **Punchy** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 9:04 pm

yeah.. Cool

I mean i could modify ( i believe the word round here is bootie fab :lol:

)

,a set of truck shocks or something like that with a threaded outer sleeve and spring base platform tig welded to it...or make like a strut type setup off that of a modern front wheel drive, just getting a long enough chromed shaft i think may be the only issue i have..

But for all the effort involved..if its easier/cheaper to buy it i will..

Post by **Carl Coight** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 9:54 pm

Nice work

:wink:

Post by **bj on roids** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 12:12 pm

Orange wrote:I am in Brisbane un-fortunatly, would love to see it in the flesh though. I haven't seen anything like that up here. I can't beleive the suspension travel you get out of it .... as I said, impressive.

Post by **Ferwoaza** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 12:28 pm

Jeremey, you say you could do a SAS for under $3k? Hmm...I reckon it would work out more on my rig as I have to change the rear axle as well :|

That a coilover cost or just to springs?

It's something I want to do, but the cost does seem prohibitive to me...

The rigs looking awesome!

Post by **bj on roids** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 4:51 pm

leaf springs bearch! 8)

Post by **Surfection** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 7:30 pm

Yeah as Bj said, leafs, not that there's anything wrong with that.... could definatly be done for under three, but not with high steer etc, just depends on the setup i think. I'll have a looksy at yours on the weekend murray.

Post by **RUFF** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 8:53 pm

Jeramy i see you are selling you sliders and rear bar. What are you doing for body protection now?

Post by **Surfection** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 8:58 pm

Just bigger and better sliders/rear bar dude..... you'll see !!

Post by **NICK** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 9:14 pm

Punchy wrote:
Like I've said to santa on many occasions...gimme 20 minutes and a grinder, and ill make it fit !

just a word of advise, you may also need a hammer.

NICK

Post by **NICK** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 9:18 pm

Surfection wrote:Yeah as Bj said, leafs, not that there's anything wrong with that.... could definatly be done for under three, but not with high steer etc, just depends on the setup i think. I'll have a looksy at yours on the weekend murray.

i personally think you could do it for under $3000 with highsteer, remember you already have the box.

NICK

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