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LS1 Headers (alternatives to marks4x4?)

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LS1 Headers (alternatives to marks4x4?)

Post by crankycruiser »

Hey fellas. Im after a new set of Block huggers for my 80 and am after some advice on where to get some DECENT ones.. I have been running in the marks 4x4 ones that are supplied with the kit and they are JUNK! they have fallen to bits and they arent even 2 years old :bad-words: Im sick of welding the fekers up!

Now problem is I need to get some that are very similar in shape as I cant just pop down the road to the local exhaust shop and get them to fit them, Im in Weipa... I need to get the exit from the headers in as close to the same position as possible as we dont have a exhaust bender up here...

So the marks ones appear to be rear dump. anyone know of anywhere in oz / US that i could order some from?

thanks guys

u can see them laying on the floor in this pic
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found this image on marks.. pretty sure thats the LS1 headers

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Re: LS1 Headers (alternatives to marks4x4?)

Post by TheBigBoy »

Are you living up there now??? :). Cant help you there on prefab. I got mine custom made $1600. I couldnt find any other than marks also.
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TheBigBoy wrote:Are you living up there now??? :). Cant help you there on prefab. I got mine custom made $1600. I couldnt find any other than marks also.
Yeah mate, got a job in weipa while i was on my cape trip, they gave me a house as well so who am I to argue!?!? Will hang about here at least until after the wet season! :D
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Post by TheBigBoy »

Your only option is to get your hands on some marks block huggers. Take them to a custom shop and they will copy them in aluminiumised or stainless and ship them up to you. Bit of rooting around. But you will end up with what you want. Otherwise if they are slightly wrong, they will touch your leads and even with the shroud on they will melt them, and also your zort wont line up.
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Re: LS1 Headers (alternatives to marks4x4?)

Post by zuffen »

They look very simillar to LS3 headers as used by HSV.

You will find plenty for sale on eBay and the HSV Forum.

I purchsaed a set fro $200.00 complete with cats and system all the way to the rear bumper.
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Re: LS1 Headers (alternatives to marks4x4?)

Post by Frankenyota »

Maybe something like this http://www.speedwaymotors.com/LS1-Tight ... ,4614.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wont be a straight fit up to your exhaust, but if you could get the flanges that bolt to the headers it may need minor work.

What is the fuel economy like with the LS1?

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Post by VooDoo »

VE headers hug the block a lot more than the older VT-VZ stuff but the exhaust ports are the same so they will bolt up the same.
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Post by crankycruiser »

Frankenyota wrote:Maybe something like this http://www.speedwaymotors.com/LS1-Tight ... ,4614.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wont be a straight fit up to your exhaust, but if you could get the flanges that bolt to the headers it may need minor work.

What is the fuel economy like with the LS1?

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Thanks mate, but they need to be rear exit. if the go straight down like the ones in the pic they will hit the engine mount.

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Re: LS1 Headers (alternatives to marks4x4?)

Post by Kitika »

I'm gunna keep an eye on this thread because my headers from marks are looking pretty rusty and shitty too and mine are about 1 1/2 yrs old now and i don't even drive it through mud/water/salt.
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Kitika wrote:I'm gunna keep an eye on this thread because my headers from marks are looking pretty rusty and shitty too and mine are about 1 1/2 yrs old now and i don't even drive it through mud/water/salt.

Ur's are doing alright then! mine have been leaking since new.. (only a small tick) but got real bad once they were 1.5 years old :bad-words: ..... I've been searching my little heart out for an alternative, but just keep hitting the brick wall :agrue:
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Post by crankycruiser »

just been having another search, and as has been said the hsv ls3 headers look very similar.. so might just bite the bullet and blow the coin and get some.
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Post by big lux »

pics and let us know how you go? If you got real stuck theres a bloke in mackay that can do custom headers he could copy yurs and send them back and maybe make a set for me too lol.
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Post by VooDoo »

crankycruiser wrote:just been having another search, and as has been said the hsv ls3 headers look very similar.. so might just bite the bullet and blow the coin and get some.
Talk to Mark At Powertorque Engines in Brisbane. He will have a pile of stock manifolds you can use for test fitting and clearance testing. There is also nothing he doesnt know about LS1's. He has done a number of conversions and is one of the best tuners in the country. Tell him VooDoo sent you. You can also talk to Jezza in Mackay (HDT) who will have some spares around too.
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Post by georgey »

Pm me mate and I'll give you a blokes number who makes them for $500.
He advertises on eBay sometimes too just search ls1.
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Post by crankycruiser »

thanks for all the help guys, but it all came a little too late! :lol: I ordered a set of LS3 HSV headers 2nd hand off fleabay, should be here in a week or so and will see if i can get the buggers to fit!
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Keep us posted. :D
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Post by Shadow »

crankycruiser wrote:thanks for all the help guys, but it all came a little too late! :lol: I ordered a set of LS3 HSV headers 2nd hand off fleabay, should be here in a week or so and will see if i can get the buggers to fit!

how much?
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Post by Willy Hilux »

Turn Key Engines over at the states have them too I think.

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Shadow wrote:
crankycruiser wrote:thanks for all the help guys, but it all came a little too late! :lol: I ordered a set of LS3 HSV headers 2nd hand off fleabay, should be here in a week or so and will see if i can get the buggers to fit!

how much?
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Post by stilivn »

Did they do the trick, if not killalux has an old set on eBay for 450 but they come down outside the chassis rail.
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update on this, LS3 headers WILL NOT fit if ur conversion is the marks conversion. The boys at carline in cairns just had a go at fitting them up for me.
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Post by sprungupcruiser »

Did you try calling marks adapters?
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Post by tonkatuf »

Have you tried the short headers from HM http://www.hmheaders.com.au/index.php?q=204.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
or even the primary pipes from the HM113SS. http://www.hmheaders.com.au/index.php?q=213.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: LS1 Headers (alternatives to marks4x4?)

Post by TURBO LS2 »

Why dont you call qld diesel spares and get some bends and make our own? Or modify the ones ya got. Headers are easy to make.
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sprungupcruiser wrote:Did you try calling marks adapters?

U didnt read the title too well aye? i want alternatives as theirs are junk.. mine lasted 12 monthsb4 they started to fall to bits.
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tonkatuf wrote:Have you tried the short headers from HM http://www.hmheaders.com.au/index.php?q=204.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
or even the primary pipes from the HM113SS. http://www.hmheaders.com.au/index.php?q=213.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
neither of those will fit, but thanks mate.
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TURBO LS2 wrote:Why dont you call qld diesel spares and get some bends and make our own? Or modify the ones ya got. Headers are easy to make.
if only i had the gear and the time.. time being the biggest problem
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