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Patrol Engine upgrade.
Patrol Engine upgrade.
Hi all, my name is Joel, iv got a 1999 4.2diesel GU wagon with 195,000km which i have had for 6years. it has been a great car, never missed a beat, and i have set it up just how i like.
But i am going around Australia again in March, and i wanted it to be reliable, so i started looking at upgrading to a newer motor, i found a 3.0L out of a 2001 patrol with only 91,000km, it was really cheap, and came with the wiring loom and gearbox etc. so i have bought it and started the upgrade. i cant wait to see how it goes. its supposed to have more power than the old 4.2.
My mechanic is charging me enough. . . . struth! nearly $9,000 in labor to fit a motor and gearbox. is this normal? on a positive note he has offered to knock $1,000 off the price of the upgrade, and buy my old motor and gearbox off me. he also says my diff cogs will need to change. but i dont want to change the diffs because iv already got a lokker fitted. . . . . . so i have a few issues.
i would like to know what you guys think, especially those who have upgraded your motor like me, particularly the power. . . . cant wait to drive it.
But i am going around Australia again in March, and i wanted it to be reliable, so i started looking at upgrading to a newer motor, i found a 3.0L out of a 2001 patrol with only 91,000km, it was really cheap, and came with the wiring loom and gearbox etc. so i have bought it and started the upgrade. i cant wait to see how it goes. its supposed to have more power than the old 4.2.
My mechanic is charging me enough. . . . struth! nearly $9,000 in labor to fit a motor and gearbox. is this normal? on a positive note he has offered to knock $1,000 off the price of the upgrade, and buy my old motor and gearbox off me. he also says my diff cogs will need to change. but i dont want to change the diffs because iv already got a lokker fitted. . . . . . so i have a few issues.
i would like to know what you guys think, especially those who have upgraded your motor like me, particularly the power. . . . cant wait to drive it.
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Would have left it 4.2 more reliable and your being overcharged for an engine swap
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
I really hope this is a stir up?
The 3L is probably patrol owners worst nightmare. Reliability of this is 1/10th of any TD42.
Cost of getting the TD42 to go 100% better than any 3L would be about 8-10K (which would be considerably less than what it will cost for your planned upgrade)
Add a turbo and intake manifold upgrade and you will get around 80-90% more power and torque on 10-11psi.
Add a good intercooler and that figure will be up at least another 30%, lifting the boost to 13-14psi.
All well within safety margins on a td42.
Turbo $5K, Intercooling $3.5K both as installed prices.
Best thing is it will do 500-600K km's before it kicks the bucket, with the 3L some people are lucky to break the 100K km mark before needing a rebuild.
The absolute worst part of all this is the designated 'Hand Grenade' years for the ZD30 are 2001 and 2002.
The TD42 your sitting on now would be worth 6-8K as a complete engine to the right buyer...!
I would urge you to sell that zd30 off asap and actually do your 4.2 up if your chasing a torque monster and reliability.
The 3L is probably patrol owners worst nightmare. Reliability of this is 1/10th of any TD42.
Cost of getting the TD42 to go 100% better than any 3L would be about 8-10K (which would be considerably less than what it will cost for your planned upgrade)
Add a turbo and intake manifold upgrade and you will get around 80-90% more power and torque on 10-11psi.
Add a good intercooler and that figure will be up at least another 30%, lifting the boost to 13-14psi.
All well within safety margins on a td42.
Turbo $5K, Intercooling $3.5K both as installed prices.
Best thing is it will do 500-600K km's before it kicks the bucket, with the 3L some people are lucky to break the 100K km mark before needing a rebuild.
The absolute worst part of all this is the designated 'Hand Grenade' years for the ZD30 are 2001 and 2002.
The TD42 your sitting on now would be worth 6-8K as a complete engine to the right buyer...!
I would urge you to sell that zd30 off asap and actually do your 4.2 up if your chasing a torque monster and reliability.
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
highly agree with northside the only one getting a good deal here is your mechanic.the td42 are a proven motor and will get you around aus no worries at all
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Yeah i'm guessing its a joke.
I will give you $1500 for the engine!
I will give you $1500 for the engine!
GQII Patrol YAY!!
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Its not April 1.....But school is out!
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
LOL good one.
My friends aren't holding me back..... I'm pulling 'em forward.
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
wow that's like that's like trading in jessica alba for kerry-anne kennerly.
if this is a serious post dude i would be slapping your mechanic for taking advantage of you, any one worth their salt would tell you that you are making a huge mistake!!!!!
if this is a serious post dude i would be slapping your mechanic for taking advantage of you, any one worth their salt would tell you that you are making a huge mistake!!!!!
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
I wasn't even going to look at this thread as I thought I knew exactly what it would be about from the subject line! Never judge a book.......
What a pi ss take!
Someone was very bored and highly imaginative...
Kudos for making us chuckle..
What a pi ss take!
Someone was very bored and highly imaginative...
Kudos for making us chuckle..
Just the usual... 5in,33s,dual cab cut, turbo'd,water2air...gas on the way..
Finaly did a Build-up thread..
http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56124
Finaly did a Build-up thread..
http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56124
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Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
it sounds all true.
poor fella.
poor fella.
AUSTRALIA
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Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
surely the OP is not being seriously ??? :O
94 Patrol Petrol 3.0L lift, tyres, winch
90 WT Serria locked diff, Muddies
90 WT Serria locked diff, Muddies
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
They say a fool and his money are easily parted. I might take up the spanners again & move to Vic
Don't ask me, ask them. I'm just runnin for my life myself.
Well they are all following you...
No they ain't, I'm just in front...............
Well they are all following you...
No they ain't, I'm just in front...............
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Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
hmm his profile says his a michanic...........
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Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Nice GU TD42 with reasonable kms going for $20 - $25K
Nice 3.0 same year and engine still running $10 - 12K
Pay a rip off mech $9k for the worst ever engine swap in a Patrol
Sell a TD42 and gearbox for $1K
One Patrol devalued quicker than a Zimbabwe dollar!
Hmmm, I have a slightly used Harbour Bridge for sale. But wait there's more - Ring now and I will throw in the Opera House for
Just $1 extra!!!
Oh And i will give you $2000 for both 4.2 engine and gearbox...
Nice 3.0 same year and engine still running $10 - 12K
Pay a rip off mech $9k for the worst ever engine swap in a Patrol
Sell a TD42 and gearbox for $1K
One Patrol devalued quicker than a Zimbabwe dollar!
Hmmm, I have a slightly used Harbour Bridge for sale. But wait there's more - Ring now and I will throw in the Opera House for
Just $1 extra!!!
Oh And i will give you $2000 for both 4.2 engine and gearbox...
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
you boys had fun with this..... yer, i was bored.
still driving my 99gu. 430,000km.
still driving my 99gu. 430,000km.
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Pennyponting wrote:you boys had fun with this..... yer, i was bored.
still driving my 99gu. 430,000km.
Missed this when it was posted.
Nice
(2000 GU 4.2, 300,000ks)
Not dead yet!
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