dana 60s into gq patrol

[morewheeldrive]

pondering the thought of dana 60s under a gq, everyone knows the aftermarket cv options for patrols are shizzle. some built dana 60s might be perfect. whats ur thoughts nissan nuts???

[unmass]

How bout a custom housing like Buds or Dragtec using Patrol centre and 80 series longfields or even Dragtecs full house diff using patrol or 9 inch centre with Dana 60 outers.

[turbo gu]

Might be an option with BIG tyres but DANA 60s are land anchors!!
There are a couple of winch trucks that run them (solid) but they arent as worried about land anchors as much as crawler!.
Would not be a cheap option either!!
I would go a GU front with heat treated cvs for a GQ. Unless tuff truck is your aim!

[WICKED]

Why not a D60 35spline GQ/GU HIpinion?

Buds customs is building me a custom housing with GQ centre, 35 spline axles (inner and outer) running Longfield uni's, Ried racing knuckles, artec double shear hi-steer and a 10" ram
Strength, good steering = piece of mind

I have NEVER seen, and no one I have spoken too has seen a hipinion Nissan diff fail in a front diff.

[GUtripper]

Might be an option with BIG tyres but DANA 60s are land anchors!!
There are a couple of winch trucks that run them (solid) but they arent as worried about land anchors as much as crawler!.
Would not be a cheap option either!!
I would go a GU front with heat treated cvs for a GQ. Unless tuff truck is your aim!

Land anchors how?
I've run Solid D60's in 2 rigs now... They have better under diff clearance then GQ/GU diffs, and weight would be about the same.

[Lawrence]

Might be an option with BIG tyres but DANA 60s are land anchors!!
There are a couple of winch trucks that run them (solid) but they arent as worried about land anchors as much as crawler!.
Would not be a cheap option either!!
I would go a GU front with heat treated cvs for a GQ. Unless tuff truck is your aim!

Land anchors how?
I've run Solid D60's in 2 rigs now... They have better under diff clearance then GQ/GU diffs, and weight would be about the same.

They would be the same strength wise too. Only difference is that i believe the d60 would have more aftermarket options

[turbo gu]

What size is a D60 crown wheel. It well be bigger than a GQ/GU plus a cast housing! They are alot big than a patrol housing!

[flexytj]

What size is a D60 crown wheel. It well be bigger than a GQ/GU plus a cast housing! They are alot big than a patrol housing!

you on drugs gutripper has them in his jeep i had them in one of my old jeeps my current jeep has gq diffs and they hang lower than the d60s ever did
gu tripper owns a gu aswell as the jeep we both have had the oppurtunity to measure them side by side

[MikeH]

Are you sure? Jeeps tend to come with Dana 44s which are a lot smaller than the 60.

[turbo gu]

No drugs.. a nissan crown wheel is approx 9 inches, a d60s is approx 10.5 inches plus allow 10mm of cast housing compared to 3mm steel housing of a nissan.
That would make the d60 at least 2inches bigger overall
happy to be proven wrong. maybe a photo of both with a tape measure.

[GUtripper]

No drugs.. a nissan crown wheel is approx 9 inches, a d60s is approx 10.5 inches plus allow 10mm of cast housing compared to 3mm steel housing of a nissan.
That would make the d60 at least 2inches bigger overall
happy to be proven wrong. maybe a photo of both with a tape measure.

Can line up flexy's next to mine, he runs GQ diffs, and 37" kevlars I run D60 semi float rear and 37" Krawlers.
Will take pics with a tape measure and happily prove you wrong.......
That said, mine is a Solid Axle Ind high pinion aftermarket unit, not some junkyard Dana.

MikeH, correct, standard rear TJ diffs were Dana 44's. Mine isn't standard.

Will post pics here tomorrow.

[johnsy86]

Why not a D60 35spline GQ/GU HIpinion?

Buds customs is building me a custom housing with GQ centre, 35 spline axles (inner and outer) running Longfield uni's, Ried racing knuckles, artec double shear hi-steer and a 10" ram
Strength, good steering = piece of mind

I have NEVER seen, and no one I have spoken too has seen a hipinion Nissan diff fail in a front diff.

Yeah Dragtec do these check here http://www.rockracing4x4.com/forums/sho ... uild/page6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; also as seen in Dirtcomp mag

[GUtripper]

Measured today with cars side by side, D60 clearance 295mm, Patrol diff 285. Can't link phone to iPad, will post pics later.
Not 100% sure, but Goodyear Kevlars may be slightly taller than my Krawlers too.

[WICKED]

Why not a D60 35spline GQ/GU HIpinion?

Buds customs is building me a custom housing with GQ centre, 35 spline axles (inner and outer) running Longfield uni's, Ried racing knuckles, artec double shear hi-steer and a 10" ram
Strength, good steering = piece of mind

I have NEVER seen, and no one I have spoken too has seen a hipinion Nissan diff fail in a front diff.

Yeah Dragtec do these

I looked into these, as I'm sure your aware, and I didn't want ball joint or the ruff stuff housing. And mine are 35 spline axles so no necking down.

Buddy will have more info on the diff your serious about it more wheel drive.

Pics of Longfield D60 Uni beside/with a 60's cv

[flexytj]

No drugs.. a nissan crown wheel is approx 9 inches, a d60s is approx 10.5 inches plus allow 10mm of cast housing compared to 3mm steel housing of a nissan.
That would make the d60 at least 2inches bigger overall
happy to be proven wrong. maybe a photo of both with a tape measure.

i owned a jeep on rock cruser 60s and they had more clearance under the pumpkin than my tj with gq diffs in it when fitted with the same size tyres .

terflex and dynatracs have even more clearance again .

you do not even know the crown wheel sizes and are clearly making uneducated posts of here say against people that have previously owned
or currently own d60s . d60 crown wheel is 9.75 inches h233b is 9.25 inches . i would hardly call that two inches. .

[WICKED]

my tj with gq diffs in it

Small side note but why did you chose to put gq Diffs in instead of upgrading the Dana gear?

[johnsy86]

Why not a D60 35spline GQ/GU HIpinion?

Buds customs is building me a custom housing with GQ centre, 35 spline axles (inner and outer) running Longfield uni's, Ried racing knuckles, artec double shear hi-steer and a 10" ram
Strength, good steering = piece of mind

I have NEVER seen, and no one I have spoken too has seen a hipinion Nissan diff fail in a front diff.

Yeah Dragtec do these

I looked into these, as I'm sure your aware,

no as I don't care what you do

[GUtripper]

my tj with gq diffs in it

Small side note but why did you chose to put gq Diffs in instead of upgrading the Dana gear?

Probably because GQ gear is cheap to source and available everywhere, as are matching rims.... Dana 60's are harder to find..... there are 60 rears around the place from old J trucks etc if you know a few old Jeep hoarders (as I do), but try finding a D60 front locally.... then there are additional costs like hubs to match the rears etc, as many/most front 60's will be 8 lug etc.

[WICKED]

my tj with gq diffs in it

Small side note but why did you chose to put gq Diffs in instead of upgrading the Dana gear?

Probably because GQ gear is cheap to source and available everywhere, as are matching rims.... Dana 60's are harder to find..... there are 60 rears around the place from old J trucks etc if you know a few old Jeep hoarders (as I do), but try finding a D60 front locally.... then there are additional costs like hubs to match the rears etc, as many/most front 60's will be 8 lug etc.

Wouldn't a build D44 (what ever was factory in TJ) be stronger than GQ?

[turbo gu]

No drugs.. a nissan crown wheel is approx 9 inches, a d60s is approx 10.5 inches plus allow 10mm of cast housing compared to 3mm steel housing of a nissan.
That would make the d60 at least 2inches bigger overall
happy to be proven wrong. maybe a photo of both with a tape measure.

i owned a jeep on rock cruser 60s and they had more clearance under the pumpkin than my tj with gq diffs in it when fitted with the same size tyres .

terflex and dynatracs have even more clearance again .

you do not even know the crown wheel sizes and are clearly making uneducated posts of here say against people that have previously owned
or currently own d60s . d60 crown wheel is 9.75 inches h233b is 9.25 inches . i would hardly call that two inches. .

Everything i found on D60s said approx 10.5 inch crown wheel. Being cast the housing will be alot thicker than a steel housing. therefore by that 2 inches by that would be right.
As i said happy to be proved wrong!!

[zookimal]

I thought a D60 was 9.75 and a D70 was 10.5.

That said, a Jana76 kit will fit a D70 crownwheel into a D60 housing with some trimming so there is plenty of room there.

It's interesting to hear from the guys with them both there as I would have been wrong if I was guessing.

[GUtripper]

Wouldn't a build D44 (what ever was factory in TJ) be stronger than GQ?

No, the stock D44 rear in a TJ would have thinner axle tubes, smaller crownwheel, and skinnier axles with lower spline count as standard. You can upgrade them to 35 spline cro-mo axles etc, but if you're swapping the front out whats the point?

That said, my TJ runs a Solid Axle Ind high pinion D44 front, which is substantially stronger than a factory D44 unit, thicker/larger axle tubes etc.
Even the old 84 chero ran the standard D44 factory housing with detriot centre, 4.88's etc, but standard factory axles. Never broke a thing, but then old iron is always going to be better than newer junk.

If you ever get the chance, check out a factory Dana 30 under the front of a JK.... it looks like a toy diff

[Lawrence]

Dana 60
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[PIGGQ]

What about portals?

[MikeH]

What about portals?

You haven't priced a set have you? very very expensive, and I'm pretty sure the CVs are the same but they do have reduced load on them from the reduction hubs.

[morewheeldrive]

Why not a D60 35spline GQ/GU HIpinion?

Buds customs is building me a custom housing with GQ centre, 35 spline axles (inner and outer) running Longfield uni's, Ried racing knuckles, artec double shear hi-steer and a 10" ram
Strength, good steering = piece of mind

I have NEVER seen, and no one I have spoken too has seen a hipinion Nissan diff fail in a front diff.

Yeah Dragtec do these

I looked into these, as I'm sure your aware, and I didn't want ball joint or the ruff stuff housing. And mine are 35 spline axles so no necking down.


Buddy will have more info on the diff your serious about it more wheel drive.



These all look amazing. But whats the damage on the buds customs rig. I'm guessing there wouldn't be much change from 5k?

Pics of Longfield D60 Uni beside/with a 60's cv

[WICKED]

Longfield super set axle sitting inside my new 35 spline side gear.


Beside a 20 cent coin

[WICKED]

These all look amazing. But whats the damage on the buds customs rig. I'm guessing there wouldn't be much change from $5k?

$7950 includes a modified air locker
$6750 minus air locker

Its a great price when you look at the parts going in! The Ried racing kingpin knuckles are around $1200 alone, not shipped.

[turbo gu]

These all look amazing. But whats the damage on the buds customs rig. I'm guessing there wouldn't be much change from $5k?

$7950 includes a modified air locker
$6750 minus air locker

Its a great price when you look at the parts going in! The Ried racing kingpin knuckles are around $1200 alone, not shipped.

What air locker is it using? The new ones have a farely bad design fault that fails quite often.

[GUtripper]

I have a high pinion D60 in the shed....Solid Axle Ind casting, 4.88 Yukon gears, disc brake, full detriot centre, 35 spline cromo axles, patrol stud pattern, 1350 yoke....approx 60" wide. Tried selling it a while back for $4k.
Any takers?