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Post by MUSS »

need a couple of pics of ya home made or proffesionally made track bars fellas if you dont know what they are they are also called anti-diff wrap bars..(laymans terminoligy) lmao
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Post by ShortyMQ »

Here's a couple pics of mine for ya.
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Post by hypo »

ShortyMQ wrote:Here's a couple pics of mine for ya.



not a great deal of vertical seperation at the diff end, how does it work ?? and wheel hop wen u get on it ??
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Post by MUSS »

awesome keep em comin... how does the shackle at the front of the wrap bar work? woodnt it still wrap?
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Post by hypo »

JAKE wrote:awesome keep em comin... how does the shackle at the front of the wrap bar work? woodnt it still wrap?


no the 2 points on the diff work against each other ( the top pulls and the bottom pushes, and coz the welded 2gether they stop it rapping) the shackle is there 2 allow back and forward movement 2 help reduce binding durin suspension cycling
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Post by Reddo »

heres two websight links that i have use for insperation in creating my trap bar

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~jrice/cruiser/FJ40.html


http://www.4wheelingplus.com/torq.html
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Post by ShortyMQ »

hypolux wrote:
ShortyMQ wrote:Here's a couple pics of mine for ya.



not a great deal of vertical seperation at the diff end, how does it work ?? and wheel hop wen u get on it ??


Seems to work ok. Only hops a bit when things get a bit nasty on the gas :roll:
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Post by hypo »

ShortyMQ wrote:
hypolux wrote:
ShortyMQ wrote:Here's a couple pics of mine for ya.



not a great deal of vertical seperation at the diff end, how does it work ?? and wheel hop wen u get on it ??


Seems to work ok. Only hops a bit when things get a bit nasty on the gas :roll:


yeah coool how well does it climb the steep shit ??
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Post by MUSS »

any one here runnin the SUPERIOR ENGINEERING track bar?
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Post by ShortyMQ »

hypolux wrote:
JAKE wrote:awesome keep em comin... how does the shackle at the front of the wrap bar work? woodnt it still wrap?


no the 2 points on the diff work against each other ( the top pulls and the bottom pushes, and coz the welded 2gether they stop it rapping) the shackle is there 2 allow back and forward movement 2 help reduce binding durin suspension cycling


Exactly :armsup:
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Post by hypo »

JAKE wrote:any one here runnin the SUPERIOR ENGINEERING track bar?


didnt know they made them ??

wot they look like ??
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Post by hypo »

the best thing i have found is 2 get the top link sitting dead flat 2 the ground or slightly higher at the diff end, with as much as possible sereration betweent he diff mounts..

i notcied this wen i modded mine once b4, it used 2 sit dead flat and it worked real good but i had 2 lift the front end 35 mm and as soon a i lifted the front higher than the rear it started 2 hop wen climbin
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Post by Gazzaj »

hypolux wrote:
JAKE wrote:any one here runnin the SUPERIOR ENGINEERING track bar?


didnt know they made them ??

wot they look like ??

Just the usual ladder bar
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Post by ShortyMQ »

hypolux wrote:
yeah coool how well does it climb the steep shit ??


Like a typical shorty- front wheels in the air :twisted:
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Post by Gazzaj »

Has any body tried 2 or 3 single link bars instead of welding them together
say 1 on the top of the diff and 2 on either side lower down :?:
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Post by 4sum4 »

Oh sh$t back to 4sum4 again forgot I was on old computer :roll:
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Post by dumbdunce »

here's a couple of a budget one I built when I did a springover on a HZJ75

the bottom bar and cross piece are from an old bundera banhard rod, solid steel, not tube. the top bar is a hilux tierod and the shackle end uses the hilux tierod end for flex and adjustability. it works pretty good, the bars have bent a little at the crossbrace but it still works fine. shackle has shock absorber eye bushes at the top end - the top eye of the shackle is a shocker eye. it does induce a little hop under hard throttle on steep climbs but nothing scary.

total cost was about six bucks for the steel for the bracket on the axle, a tierod and panhard rod I had lying around, about 2 hours, welding wire and gas.
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Post by Shorty40 »

Here is mine :cool:

The plating on the outside of the tube is a temporary fix. It was done to extend the trackbar when the wheelbase increased ;)
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Post by Eddywelder »

here is how I did mine....
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Post by Trusa »

Eddy Welder, yours would have to be the best (by looking at) anti-wrap bar i have seen. What's it like performance-wise? Wheel hop? Any flex?

Nice work!! Looks shit hot!!!!

I notice your drive shaft isn't attached, had it wheeling since installing track bar?


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Post by planb »

hypolux wrote:the best thing i have found is 2 get the top link sitting dead flat 2 the ground or slightly higher at the diff end, with as much as possible sereration betweent he diff mounts..

i notcied this wen i modded mine once b4, it used 2 sit dead flat and it worked real good but i had 2 lift the front end 35 mm and as soon a i lifted the front higher than the rear it started 2 hop wen climbin


i found this with mine

depends what you have got to start with

i dont like the inverted shackle look, although it would solve the hop
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Post by dumbdunce »

Eddywelder wrote:here is how I did mine....


is that a bundera or a GQ leading arm? I almost went this way but thought there would be too much slop in the big fat axle end bushes.

also how is the shackle end mounted to the chassis? it looks like there could be some very high shear loads in the solid link coming down from the front - looks like it is loaded with a single shear/bending load. can we have another detailed pic of the chassis end?


nice work!


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Post by planb »

heres a pic of mine
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Post by ozy1 »

dumbdunce wrote:
Eddywelder wrote:here is how I did mine....


is that a bundera or a GQ leading arm? I almost went this way but thought there would be too much slop in the big fat axle end bushes.

also how is the shackle end mounted to the chassis? it looks like there could be some very high shear loads in the solid link coming down from the front - looks like it is loaded with a single shear/bending load. can we have another detailed pic of the chassis end?


nice work!


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From the pic id be leaning towards a Rover Arm, its not a nissan one im pretty sure
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Post by dumbdunce »

ozy1 wrote:
From the pic id be leaning towards a Rover Arm, its not a nissan one im pretty sure


ah yeah I didn't even think rangie, but that's probably it.
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Post by HeathGQ »

Excuse my ingorance, but if you dont ask, you'll never know. What does a track bar do exactly? Is it to prevent or limit the twisting of the diff under acceleration/decceleration?
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Post by ozy1 »

from my knoledge which isnt much axel wrap, is when the diff tries to roll forwaards or backwards dramatically changing the pinion angle, this can cause shocks to snap, drive shafts to twist, bind and maybe evan break unis if bad enough, its more commonly assiciated with sprng over rigs
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Post by dumbdunce »

HeathGQ wrote:Excuse my ingorance, but if you dont ask, you'll never know. What does a track bar do exactly? Is it to prevent or limit the twisting of the diff under acceleration/decceleration?


that's pretty much it. saves breaking stuff like ozy says. allows you to run much softer springs (lesss leaves in the pack) for very compliant suspension.
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Post by hypo »

planb wrote:
hypolux wrote:the best thing i have found is 2 get the top link sitting dead flat 2 the ground or slightly higher at the diff end, with as much as possible sereration betweent he diff mounts..

i notcied this wen i modded mine once b4, it used 2 sit dead flat and it worked real good but i had 2 lift the front end 35 mm and as soon a i lifted the front higher than the rear it started 2 hop wen climbin


i found this with mine

depends what you have got to start with

i dont like the inverted shackle look, although it would solve the hop


wot u mean the shckle facing up ??
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Post by Reddo »

didn't know if you wanted a trac bar but theres one for sale in the for sale thread

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=18321

it of a Lux but you could make it fit


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