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swivel housing seals help .....CV circlip HELP PLEASE

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swivel housing seals help .....CV circlip HELP PLEASE

Post by Hoonz »

HELP ... again ..


i can't get the axels/CV's out enough to put the inside bit of the hub on
and then get the circlip on ... what am i doing wrong?
had it all apart again and tried again .. same thing everything is seated properly need about 5mm to get the circlip on
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Re: swivle housing seals

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Post by Hoonz »

HELP ... again ..


i can't get the axels/CV's out enough to put the inside bit of the hub on
and then get the circlip on ... what am i doing wrong?
had it all apart again and tried again .. same thing everything is seated properly need about 5mm to get the circlip on
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cv clip.

Post by patrol man »

Ive seen this before ,check that the spring on the wheel bearing seal hasnt come of . this jams between the stub and bearing, stuffs the seal and doesnt allow the hub to go no far enough. or there could be grease between the stub and brass thrust washer and or cv, if so holding the cv spline with multigrips while pulling and turning will bring cv out.
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Post by Hoonz »

checked all that ... i pulled it all apart again ... and wiped the grease out where the thrust washer is and slots into .. still same thing ..
the seal on the back of the stub axel is fine and seats over the cv good
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Post by The Fish »

I've only played with toyota cv's so this may only be applicable to toy's but is there a threaded hole in the end of the stub axle? If so try threading a bolt into it and pulling cv back out so circlip will fit on. Fit free wheeling hub before doing the above though. You may have already tried or know this but just trying to help.

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Post by Hoonz »

yeh jake just told me bout that trick .. there is a hole in the end of the cv axel ... dunno if its threaded ...





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Post by patrol man »

as the nissan cvs dont have a threaded hole it makes it hard to pull out. is the washer around the right way. try measuring the cv to stub length on the other side to determine if the problem is in the stub area or is the hub not going on far enough . is in auto locking hubs on a gq, i think they have a washer pack on the end of the stub ,differnt to the manual locking ones. it could be a wheel bearing not seated right.
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Post by Hoonz »

its the same on both sides .. i need 2-3mm to get circlip into the groove its just covered by the end of the stub ..

manual locking hubs ...

think i'll just get the mechanic to come round tomorrow and look at it ..
it'll prolly just fall into place then ...
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Post by patrol man »

gq circlip doesnt go on the end of the stub it goes on the next bit, the bit the outer locking hub locks to when locked in. :lol:
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Post by Hoonz »

:rofl: yeh the circlip goes on the end of the cv not the stub .. i know that ...
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Post by bazzle »

2 things
Ensure the machined ring the clutch sits in is around the right way.
Ring fits into hub before clutch goes on.

Sometimes you just have to pull the axle out hard before seating the clutch over the inner axle then hopefully there is enough end to poke thru when fitting circlip.

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Post by Big Red Toy »

i've had that problem, u just have to hold the axle out with a pair of pointy-nose's, then slip it on with a couple of screw drivers
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Post by Woop »

Is the machined ring that Bazzle mentions actually seating far enough in the hub itself? There is a packing piece that seats up against the outer bearing outer race. This is what larger machined ring actually saits on in the hub . Normally the locking teeth on the clutch piece that slides on to the axle splines should sit level with machined ring. This ring also protrudes a bit past the hub mating flange. 5mm sounds like a lot of space to need to pull the axle out. Are the bolts that hold the stub axle to the CV Housing done up tight and is the stub axle seated in the CV housing properly?

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Post by Zac Zec »

Grab the end of the cv with multigrips and pull it out
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Post by duncan »

Make sure the brass washers are on the right way around also if you have replaced the wheel bearings make sure that the new ones have a round rear inside edge and not a square edge like on a standard bearing for some reason the wheel bearsing inner bearing has a radiused shoulder had this happen before .Nissan should of threaded the hole in the end of the shafts to make it easy to pull out but they didnt
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Post by duncan »

Sorry to high jack the post but Zac do you belong to Quad Drive and no Brett at ARB if so what CVs are you now running talked to Brett the other day about this
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Post by Zac Zec »

Yep,
running core cv's. if I had my time again i'd go a GU front end every day of the week
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Post by Zac Zec »

Yep,
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Post by Hoonz »

grr! i can see the slot for the circlip ... getting angry now .. :bad-words:
1-2mm need just for the circlip ...

is there anything stopping me putting a thread in the hole in the end of the cv?
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Post by TUFFRANGIE »

I pulled the axle out os for as possible, then jammed a really small screw driver in the slot and levered it out some mor then put the circlip onwhilst the small screwdriver was in place holding the axle.

Pretty much what others are saying but might be worth a try :?:
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Post by Hoonz »

tried that ... can't get the screw driver to bite into the splines where the groove is
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Post by TUFFRANGIE »

i can't imagine why tapping a thread into that hole would be a problem providing that all the metal shavings are removed.
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Post by big red »

the hole is too shallow from memory...

any luck talking with your CV guy?
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Post by Hoonz »

yeh i did talk to him ... reckons i had the thrust washer round the wrong way .... pulled it all apart again to check .. had it the right way ...

so ... just need some thing to grip the end of the shaft and pull it that 1mm to get the clip on
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Post by bigpig »

Why dont you try to assemble the shaft to the hub on the bench so you can see what is going on then fit it complete to the housing but the only problem i have had is the seal .

But are you fitting a new cv/shaft???????
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