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Post by RB zook »

who owns a coily on this forum
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Re: coillys

Post by redzook »

RB zook wrote:how owns a coily on this forum


nice spellin dumbass :finger:


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ME :D
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Post by DeWsE »

You got any recent pic's Sam?
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

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Post by muppet_man67 »

I do, still undecided on whether it was the right way to go, although its cool cause not many people have em, a bit different I guess but at the same time thats the problem cause there isnt easy access to aftermarket stuff. Some of the blank looks when asking bout suspention options etc in 4wd shops is almost humerous
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Post by RB zook »

i think it is good having sumthin different.

also coz no one does them up we probably have the better coilys around
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Post by stumped »

RB zook wrote:i think it is good having sumthin different.

also coz no one does them up we probably have the better coilys around


poser :D i still get more tuck in the front of mine, and that's just wit lifted springs :armsup:
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Post by RB zook »

yeah the front is shit.

mine has the same crawl ratio, and you have gearing :D



the rear flexes nicely :D
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Post by stumped »

RB zook wrote:yeah the front is shit.

mine has the same crawl ratio, and you have gearing :D



the rear flexes nicely :D


again, don't wanna know 'bout ur rear :shock:

my gearing is just confused, it thought it was 4.16, but it's really not :lol: will be fixed sometime soon hopefully, is all good :armsup:
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Post by nelligen »

stumped wrote:
RB zook wrote:yeah the front is shit.

mine has the same crawl ratio, and you have gearing :D



the rear flexes nicely :D


again, don't wanna know 'bout ur rear :shock:

my gearing is just confused, it thought it was 4.16, but it's really not :lol: will be fixed sometime soon hopefully, is all good :armsup:
Stumped , what do you mean by the gearing isn't really 4.16 have you tested it by turning the input 4.16 turns and not getting 1 turn at the output , or are you guys having a private joke ???
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Post by suzukisam »

umm yeah I've got a coily and have had it for three years and have been dreaming up suspension mods since the day i bought it.

I've got custom rancho coilovers in the front and rancho tooo long travels in the rear.

if ya want photos of anything gizza yell and i'll send ya pics
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Post by nelligen »

[quote="suzukisam"]umm yeah I've got a coily and have had it for three years and have been dreaming up suspension mods since the day i bought it.

Is anyone else thinking like me ?, cut all the suspension mounts off and start from scratch ,something like the overkill kit , it will end up cheaper then playing around with the short restricted radius arms and the poor front towers ,and limited choice of shocks, I only wish I did it 1st up instead of feeding $$$$$ into the stock system , Iam pleased with the results so far but feel the standard set up is too restricted and to fragile to keep me satisfied for much longer.
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Post by greg »

nelligen wrote:Is anyone else thinking like me ?, cut all the suspension mounts off and start from scratch ,something like the overkill kit , it will end up cheaper then playing around with the short restricted radius arms and the poor front towers ,and limited choice of shocks, I only wish I did it 1st up instead of feeding $$$$$ into the stock system , Iam pleased with the results so far but feel the standard set up is too restricted and to fragile to keep me satisfied for much longer.


This would also be a clever option because you could change over your front diff / axel (hub to hub etc) at the same time to be a widetrack sierra housing.

This means you can pick up things like air lockers* etc for the front end of the car.

* - without any modifications.
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Post by bigsteve »

My Wifes Calais has coils
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Post by suzukisam »

bigsteve wrote:My Wifes Calais has coils


what a coincidence - so does my lancer :lol:

in fact the lancer rear springs even have the same inner diameter as the sierra front springs....
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Post by bigsteve »

suzukisam wrote:
bigsteve wrote:My Wifes Calais has coils


what a coincidence - so does my lancer :lol:

in fact the lancer rear springs even have the same inner diameter as the sierra front springs....


And being a lancer you would able to get them in chrome from the factory
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Post by nelligen »

greg wrote:
nelligen wrote:Is anyone else thinking like me ?, cut all the suspension mounts off and start from scratch ,something like the overkill kit , it will end up cheaper then playing around with the short restricted radius arms and the poor front towers ,and limited choice of shocks, I only wish I did it 1st up instead of feeding $$$$$ into the stock system , Iam pleased with the results so far but feel the standard set up is too restricted and to fragile to keep me satisfied for much longer.


This would also be a clever option because you could change over your front diff / axel (hub to hub etc) at the same time to be a widetrack sierra housing.

This means you can pick up things like air lockers* etc for the front end of the car.

* - without any modifications.
Yea but the coily axels are about 30mm wider then the wt leafys ( thats why the coilys have the ugly rims) and gain track by fitting earlier model rims, Ill just mod the front air locker I think.
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Post by greg »

nelligen wrote:Yea but the coily axels are about 30mm wider then the wt leafys


I've never heard that before. This is interesting because i know someone that is playing with the idea of ripping the internals out of their coiler front diff and installing all the widetrack goodies instead (just to see if it will work).
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Post by suzukisam »

greg wrote:
nelligen wrote:Yea but the coily axels are about 30mm wider then the wt leafys


I've never heard that before. This is interesting because i know someone that is playing with the idea of ripping the internals out of their coiler front diff and installing all the widetrack goodies instead (just to see if it will work).


yes the coily uses vitara style rims which are about 15mm more on the back spacing and the track is the same - >>>the face to face dimension must be about 30mm more then...

that's why white spokes (suraysias etc.) stick out so far on coilies

plus the front coiler diff is pinion over so the bits are unlikely to work

i hear the coily front bearings are roller bearing and not needle bearing adjustable and the splines/axle end diameters are different

good luck is all i can say
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Post by Damo »

suzukisam wrote:
greg wrote:
nelligen wrote:Yea but the coily axels are about 30mm wider then the wt leafys


I've never heard that before. This is interesting because i know someone that is playing with the idea of ripping the internals out of their coiler front diff and installing all the widetrack goodies instead (just to see if it will work).


yes the coily uses vitara style rims which are about 15mm more on the back spacing and the track is the same - >>>the face to face dimension must be about 30mm more then...

that's why white spokes (suraysias etc.) stick out so far on coilies

plus the front coiler diff is pinion over so the bits are unlikely to work

i hear the coily front bearings are roller bearing and not needle bearing adjustable and the splines/axle end diameters are different

good luck is all i can say


And the tie rod is located behind the diff housing.
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Post by droopypete »

Don't forget those pissy 1liter axles and cv's :cry:
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Post by greg »

Damo wrote:
suzukisam wrote:
greg wrote:
nelligen wrote:Yea but the coily axels are about 30mm wider then the wt leafys


I've never heard that before. This is interesting because i know someone that is playing with the idea of ripping the internals out of their coiler front diff and installing all the widetrack goodies instead (just to see if it will work).


yes the coily uses vitara style rims which are about 15mm more on the back spacing and the track is the same - >>>the face to face dimension must be about 30mm more then...

that's why white spokes (suraysias etc.) stick out so far on coilies

plus the front coiler diff is pinion over so the bits are unlikely to work

i hear the coily front bearings are roller bearing and not needle bearing adjustable and the splines/axle end diameters are different

good luck is all i can say


And the tie rod is located behind the diff housing.


Sorry - what i meant was the internals and externals - effectively everything bar the axel housing, and control arms mounts. All steering, the 3rd member, axels, cv's and hubs widgets would be widetrack... i guess you'll get an update from pete as to if it works or not.
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Post by droopypete »

Shhh.
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Post by HRZOOK »

Count me in I have a coilly

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Post by RB zook »

so its me


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Post by xtreem »

Doesn't spooky monster have a coily??????????????
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Post by antt »

anyone got a pic of the front suspension and steering setup on the coily/jimny?

also a wms->wms measurement?
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Post by Beastmavster »

As per PM's with antt pointing out I think the overall axle widths is like 50mm wider on Jimny and coily, and they use vitara offset rims to make it narrower again to keep it all under the guards.

Actual measurements for wms to wms be good... ignore the rim "padding"
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Post by PAZZ »

Hey,
I have a coily aswell!!!

Its got 2.5'' springs with choped front towers, and ranchos
in the back, it seems to flex ok, for what it is anyway,

I did also have 3'' body lift but was defected.


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