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EXO design

Post by DeWsE »

Hey guys because I have decided to be Grimace like sam and redzook I need to design an exo just to help the roof not get creased when I roll.

This picture is what i'm thinking of.....what do you think.
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Post by redzook »

why not the hole body?
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Post by DeWsE »

redzook wrote:why not the hole body?


Don't know why I seem to think that is enough.
Does this design look better?
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Post by HRZOOK »

Can't be TOO careful

more like this

:D HRZOOK :D
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Post by DeWsE »

yeah your right, maybe some armer proofing to set things off nicely.
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Post by redzook »

HRZOOK wrote:Can't be TOO careful

more like this

:D HRZOOK :D


I CAN STILL SEE WHITE PAINT
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Post by DeWsE »

How is your designed redzook?

I know you posted pics ages ago but my search button has frozen up: )
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Post by redzook »

im sure there are pics in my members thread ;)
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Post by DeWsE »

Got width!!!!!!!!!!! looks like someone is making up for something else that they lack :D :finger:
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Post by grimbo »

I reckon the 2nd one is the right direction.

And what are you grinning about :D
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Post by redzook »

DeWsE wrote:Got width!!!!!!!!!!! looks like someone is making up for something else that they lack :D :finger:
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Post by DeWsE »

grumpo wrote:And what are you grinning about


I had a bonner :D

Yeah starting to think that should be the design I will go with.

Hey redzook looked at the pics in members section, but couldn't see how the roof was designed.
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Post by germo »

the cross brace you have up the top is a good idea, it will help the exo to not flex onto the body when it rolls. Redzook doesn't have that, (he should) but I would make it a full X. makes for a much stonger exo. but ads a tiny bit more weight up top.

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Post by DeWsE »

The reason why their is only one is coz I consider that 40mm tube will be strong enough in compression as well as tension. Just consider that the two front corners are the most likely to take the weight so the the pics show the two stresses on the bars.
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Post by germo »

yeah fair enough. I can see your point.

the pictures are a real masterpeice.
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Post by DeWsE »

germo wrote: yeah fair enough. I can see your point.

the pictures are a real masterpeice.


Yeah well I was trying to work at the same time.
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Post by RUFF »

Only real probs i see with this exo cage is that there is nothing stopping the entire cage falling sideways on a hard roll/flop as there is no cross brace on the B-Hoop. And there is also not much stopping it from folding backward or forward if the vehicle endo's or flips backward. Tying the A- Pillar into a tube front bar will help this a little.

If your only looking for a little more protection from light flops and rubbing on trees and rocks then this Exo should be fine but if you are wanting a cage that will save you in a roll you have no real choice but to also add atleast a 4 point internal cage. Unless you are happy to cut holes through the body to cross brace it.

The same also goes for Redzooks Exo design.

Exo cages are always a compromise.
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Post by redzook »

RUFF wrote:Only real probs i see with this exo cage is that there is nothing stopping the entire cage falling sideways on a hard roll/flop as there is no cross brace on the B-Hoop. And there is also not much stopping it from folding backward or forward if the vehicle endo's or flips backward. Tying the A- Pillar into a tube front bar will help this a little.

If your only looking for a little more protection from light flops and rubbing on trees and rocks then this Exo should be fine but if you are wanting a cage that will save you in a roll you have no real choice but to also add atleast a 4 point internal cage. Unless you are happy to cut holes through the body to cross brace it.

The same also goes for Redzooks Exo design.

Exo cages are always a compromise.


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Post by antt »

i'm about to do mine in a few weeks and have decided to do the following design. its hard to see the roof so the second attachment is how i planned to brace it. its not as strong as a 'double x' on the roof, but its mainly to provide the most protection for the drivers seat.
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Post by suzukisam »

all you are really going to get it something to stop the gutter getting dings in it. Why don't you just weld some angle iron along the gutter line and run some laterals that could double as roofracks...

weight up top is not good and is more likely to make you roll...

and if you are getting so worried about crossbracing on your cages, why not run tensioned wires in an 'X' across all the available openings, you could even run some across the front window.

my experience with bars has been that they are fine for stopping supermarket trolleys putting scratches in your paint, but they cause more damage in a real impact.

spot the bars on my rig..........
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Post by DeWsE »

did I find all of them?
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Post by HRZOOK »

I think driving in NZ is a little different to driving in OZ. (or what I have seen from photos)

NZ seems to be mud and slop while Oz brush driving is more rock

Hence you might not need a cage in NZ if ya flop but here you can cause a fair bit of damage......believe me I know.

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Post by suzukisam »

HRZOOK wrote:NZ seems to be mud and slop while Oz brush driving is more rock

HRZOOK


depends where ya go, this photo might show a bit less mud...(not me in the first shot)

the one up the right way is my old rig....
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Post by suzukisam »

DeWsE wrote:did I find all of them?


you missed them all - bar one...... :D
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Post by DeWsE »

That first photo looks that same as my car, minnus the creased roof. What did you do with it after that happened? Was it a write off?
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Post by grimbo »

I put the exo on mine for a number of reasons but mainly to save the windscreen surround. i had previously come close to smashing it on near rolls and didn't want to go to the hassles of having to do a major repair. I have since lent it against a couple of trees and rested it on the ground on a near front endo. It hasn't shifted or buckled yet has saved the cab. The added weight I can live with, but i have noticed it.
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Post by suzukisam »

DeWsE wrote:That first photo looks that same as my car, minnus the creased roof. What did you do with it after that happened? Was it a write off?


It is a guy on our nzook forum, he is still looking for a new body to do a swap.
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Post by DeWsE »

suzukisam wrote:
DeWsE wrote:That first photo looks that same as my car, minnus the creased roof. What did you do with it after that happened? Was it a write off?


It is a guy on our nzook forum, he is still looking for a new body to do a swap.


Pity your in NZ I would sell my body to him.

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