33s for a shorty?

Post by **-Scott-** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:16 pm

I got the car dirty on the weekend

and have concluded I need 33s, and probably something more aggressive than the Cooper S/Ts.

I'm not interested in the JTs/Swampers/Boggers type of tyre, more the BFG MT/Cooper STT/Wrangler MTR style of tyre, in 285/75-16. I don't want to go 33x12.5-15, because I don't want that much width, and 33x10.5-15 are too uncommon.

Noise is an issue for me, because I want to do longer trips, which will involve a lot of highway running.

Who runs what, and would you buy it again?

Scott

Post by **Noisey** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:22 pm

Have run the Cooper STT's and have been very happy (31's)

Currently running Pro Comp XTerrains (33's).

Coopers make more noise on the road but are not as aggressive off road.

Post by **Grantw** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:02 pm

I am running a set of 255/85/16 (33.5x10.4x16) bfg muds for daily use, 305/70/16 (33x12.5x16) Radial claws for light offroad duties and 35x13.5x16 Bias claws for trips.

I would buy some goodyear MTR's. MAtes use em and find them quieter than bfg and coopers and still as good off road.

Post by **Bitsamissin** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:40 pm

Yeah I'd be looking at either the MTR or a Pro Comp X Terrain.
Remember the X Terrain is a directional tyre but in a 33" I don't think they come any thinner than a 12.5" ??
Noisey's X Terrains hooked up pretty well in the dry at Toolangi I thought.

Post by **S.W.B.Inc** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:44 pm

Just my 2cents worth but after 7105 klm to cape york and back last month on 285/75/16 MTRs I'm sold. Great grip on and off road. Great wear pattens so far on a mates 105 cruiser (heavy arsed thing) with 24,000 klm so far.

regards
pierce

Post by **Hekta** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 8:44 am

I've got MTR's 33x12.5 and I reckon they're great, they aren't that noisey on the road and they're still good offroad.

Post by **PAJMAN** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:53 am

Hi Scott,

as I think I mentioned last night, I run 285 BFG MT's for serious driving, no complaints at all, they bag down really well at lower pressures. I haven't noticed any excess wear at this stage compared to my previous set, both were made in the USA.

I have driven other pajeros with MTR's and they felt similar to the BFG's offroad, and I think they are a bit quieter on the black stuff. The MTR's seem to have a slightly narrower tread width than the BFG's, though I haven't actually measured the difference. The 255/85/16 size that Grant mentioned are also a good size with less chance of rubbing on full lock, and they can fit on a 7" rim ok.

If you only want to run one set of tyres then the MTR's may be a better all round choice with the quieter running, though price may also come into it. Don't forget that 16" wheels are more expensive than 15", perhaps that may be a factor as well.

regards

John

Post by **-Scott-** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:48 am

Thanks for that John.

What's the availability of these sizes in more remote areas? I'm favouring the 285/75 because I see them on a lot of 'Cruisers and Patrols, so I'm guessing I'm more likely to find them than some of the other sizes. If I've guessed wrong I should re-think my theory.

Hekta,

You don't mention mods - do you have any clearance issues with the 33x12.5? Do you have suspension lift/body lift? What model Paj?

Thanks,

Scott

Post by **Thor** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:44 pm

x-terrains they guarantee 50kms +
285/75/16 = 32.8x11.2
still good for 7" rim and single set of tyres

Post by **Hekta** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:48 pm

Sorry Scott
yeah I've got a 2" B/L and they fit fine on a '92 Model LWB got 'em on 15x8" Steelies and haven't had any dramas with rubbing etc

Post by **Grantw** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:09 pm

c'mon thor..... its a bit of a squeeze on a 7" rim..... Not sure if many tyre outlets would fit them. Bloody jeepers..

Post by **MrGenius** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:15 pm

Ive got 33x10.5 BFG muds on my NH SWB atm on stocker rims.
Have had 33 and 35x12.5 on 15x8 steelies on there too.
2" spring and 2" body lift.

I never notice the noise always have the radio on :cool:

There is significantly less noise with the 10.5's over the 12.5's with less contact patch on the road.

Post by **Grantw** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:31 pm

I agree..... My 255's are very quiet.. Not to mention I get very good economy out of em. Should see 60K out of em easy.

Post by **Grantw** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:33 pm

Check these out scott. Could save you some $$$

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=20206

Post by **-Scott-** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:43 pm

I've seen that add on a couple of forums - I haven't shopped for a new price on them, but I didn't think it was an exciting price for second hand tyres - how much are they new?

Scott

Post by **Grantw** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:42 pm

3 hungee odd... i was thinking the 5 for 900

Post by **-Scott-** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:50 pm

That would be a better price. I've got a friendly tyre retailer - I'll get a quote from him, then start haggling.

Thanks,

Scott

Post by **Grantw** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:08 am

Grape vine source.... $290 each

Post by **matt73** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:18 pm

Grantw wrote:c'mon thor..... its a bit of a squeeze on a 7" rim..... Not sure if many tyre outlets would fit them. Bloody jeepers..

Well I've had two separate fitters put 33x12.5 on my 7 inch rims!!

Taken them down to 15psi on stockton no probs!

Post by **Grantw** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:30 pm

Yep some do it... but as for liability.... Tyre manufacturures have a min rim size for this very reason...

Post by **Thor** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:06 pm

i'd only do it if i was really stingy... but it's worth nothing that on the procomp site it does say 7.0-9.0 rim size.
http://www.procomp.com.au/Html/Pc_Produ ... errain.htm

Post by **Grantw** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:58 pm

interesting.... coopers, bfgs, mtrs, interco all need a min of 8" rim....

Not that it really matters but I am just raising an argumentative point...

I looking at the 285/75/16 xterrains to go on to my stock 16x7's.

Post by **Noisey** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:55 am

Good choice.

Not overly noisey on the black stuff and have good road handling qualities.

11.5 in width (on 16" rims) is probably better than the 12.5 aswell (on the 15" rims) - it's a fair chunk of rubber under the SWB.

With 33 x 12.5 I have nearly 1" of rubber hanging out past the flares.

Overall - very happy so far.

Post by **TONKA PAJ** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:58 pm

Man, im in love with the x terrains. I'd never heard much about them untill now, but they appear 2 be an awsome, and not to mention long lasting tyre. Anyone got a price on these by any chance??
If not i'll ring up a sockist, c what the 33/11.50r16's r goin for. (Man i'd love the 37's though :lol:

)

Post by **Noisey** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:29 am

I got them straight from ProComp.

One of the guys from this forum was working there at the time and did me a good deal (around $300 a tread). Best I had been quoted before that was around the $330 a Tread (33 x 12.5 x 15).

Post by **-Scott-** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:29 am

Well guys, I bought the MTRs last night. Now I've gotta negotiate a good price on the ROH steelies...

Thanks for the input and advice.

And I agree the ProComp X-Terrains look impressive, and being able to fit them to 16x7s is attractive, but I'm not a big fan of directional tyres for all-round practicality - what do you do with the spare?

Maybe I've just gotta loosen up...

Scott

Post by **Thor** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:36 pm

well done on the MTR's! they're a good tyre!
with a spare for directional i guess you just get an A/T of the same size.

Post by **Grantw** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:05 pm

My claws arent so bad as you are able to run em the non directional way with no dramas... I seem to get flats on the drivers side mostly so thats what the spare is for.

Scott.... what did you pay for your mtrs?? If you can say :roll:

Post by **-Scott-** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:59 pm

We negotiated

- I sent you a PM.

Scott

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