Engine driven air con compressor on 1HZ

Post by **The Fish** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:12 am

No doubt this has been done by someone on here. I'm about to do it myself and don't believe it will be too hard. Have had a quick look and the only spot I think it can be mounted is above the factory air con compessor by mounting it lower. Is this true? Any pointers to dramas that may be encountered would be appreciated, pics/drawings even better! Just trying to save time on R&D. Have done a search and couldn't find any posts relating directly to this topic.

Cheers in advance.

Post by **MYTTUF** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:16 am

You could put it where the power steering pump is.

Post by **dow50r** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:11 am

Seen one on a 1hz, mounted where the power steering reservoir is, it was a Camira Sandon compresser, and the air cond tensioner pulley was a Hyundai (flat instead of vee belt) cog, so the air cond belt could go under it instead of ontop.
Andrew

Post by **dumbdunce** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:26 pm

MYTTUF wrote:You could put it where the power steering pump is.

the power steer pump runs off a gear in the timing case. it would be some impressive home engineering to make it fit there. not to mention losing the power steering.

Post by **dumbdunce** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:27 pm

I think endless has a kit, and it mounts like you suggest with the existing air cond compressor moved down. i looked at doing it and it looked all a bit too hard but if you make it work I'd be interested in having a look.

Post by **MYTTUF** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:06 pm

dumbdunce wrote:
MYTTUF wrote:You could put it where the power steering pump is.

the power steer pump runs off a gear in the timing case. it would be some impressive home engineering to make it fit there. not to mention losing the power steering.

I did mean the reservoir :oops:

It wouldn't matter about loosing the power steering though as The Fish's power steering is non-power assist at the moment so it can't be lost.

Post by **MYTTUF** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:13 pm

dow50r wrote:Seen one on a 1hz, mounted where the power steering reservoir is, it was a Camira Sandon compresser, and the air cond tensioner pulley was a Hyundai (flat instead of vee belt) cog, so the air cond belt could go under it instead of ontop.
Andrew

What is the output of the above mentioned air compressor??
If it is too small is it worth the effort???
Got any pics????

MYTTUF on behalf of The Fish

Post by **dow50r** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 7:40 am

If you have a surf round the 80scool list piccies, (www.lcool.org) you will find them...8cfm i believe....10psi to 30psi on a 35 in 45 seconds sort of stuff.
Andrew

Post by **pcman** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:37 am

you can get 5cfm and 8cfm ones

ive got a 5cfm on my 40 thats not yet hooked up to the tank but ive ran a airline from it and it runs my rattle gun without a tank hooked up

you can sorta see it in this pic of my engine bay

Post by **Cliffy** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:01 pm

Ok some pics of my set up. Purchased an endless air comp, with the bracket kit..... dont get the bracket kit.... :bad-words:

..... might work for some but it is constructed out of 4mm mild steel, and has to support the weight of the compressor and a/c compressor. So I am in the process of fabbing my own bracket kit.

Since I want to retain air con (would be easier if no air con) the standard ac brachet is move out from the std mounting hole by 40mm and forward about 15 mm, the air comp drives directically of the crank and then the air con drives off the air compressor, refer to pics.

The pics show progress so far..... Have to work out the adjustment for the air comp to the crank...... any one got any ideas

Post by **dumbdunce** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:28 pm

looks good; how does it go for bonnet clearance though? would you need to run a body lift to make it fit?

Post by **Cliffy** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:51 pm

Yes the height is a prob, as you can see I haven't finished it yet, going to revise the base plate for the air comp and see if I can sit it a bit lower, and yes I am lucky that I will have a 2" body lift.

Post by **80diesel4play** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:57 am

Nice work Cliffy.

Any chance of booty fabbing another one up to suit the same pump once you finish?

I'd be more than happy to pop down with a case of cold ones and soem folded stuff for that - Hell -I'd even unhook the air con on my rangie just for the pump!!

I have body lift already - so that would work!! and I have the air tank...hmmmmm

Post by **ozhumvee** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:48 pm

Can you make a Y shaped bracket to use for adjustment, swing the compressor off the two bolts on one side and then the Y bracket off two mounts on the other side to adjust. Lot's of vehicles use that system to adjust a/c compressor.

Post by **The Fish** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:14 pm

Anyone got pics or can get pics of an air con pump mounted where the power steering reservoir is? Reckon there is plenty of room there but unsure about strength of mounting it there!

Post by **dumbdunce** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:18 pm

The Fish wrote:Anyone got pics or can get pics of an air con pump mounted where the power steering reservoir is? Reckon there is plenty of room there but unsure about strength of mounting it there!

I wouldn't do it. you'd have to at least partially mount it off the inlet manifold and breaking the manifold would suck.

Post by **Cliffy** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:19 am

80diesel4play wrote:Any chance of booty fabbing another one up to suit the same pump once you finish?

Will probly, have a go but will be a while away.... will keep you posted.

Post by **The Fish** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:54 pm

Cliffy, Any updates or photos on how the air con mounting is going?

Post by **rockcrawler31** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:19 pm

If anyone ever actually gets it sorted how to fit a compressor and keep the AC, i will gladly pay towards the RnD costs for getting a mount fabbed.

or if anyone wants to get one fabbed i would be interested in going halves for getting a second one made.

might be worth it to keep the initial tooling costs down. if you want to let me know you cant reach me at rockcrawler@cliffhanger.com

it will be going in a 75 series without a body lift by the way

MILO

Post by **Cliffy** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:14 pm

The Fish wrote:Cliffy, Any updates or photos on how the air con mounting is going?

Progress nill, will be into it after christmas, got a heap on at the moment.... Actually pulled the cover off the engine the other day to see what it looks like, while having a can, still didn't solve the problem of geeeting the tensioner to work. Might have to go and have another can and a bit more of a think.

So if I fabbed this bracket to retain the standard A/C assembly/compressor and then based the air comp on a either a sanden/endless air, or a toyota sealed unit that would suit every body, cos most people are using either sanden or 'toyoda' as air comps arn't they.

The other question and not really related, HOW THE HELL DO YOU POST PICS IN THE TEXT :bad-words:

Post by **dow50r** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:27 pm

Gday went to Appin last night with a few cruisers, and one of them was a hzj105 with endless air kit.....well what an engineering marvel this is...the compresser is mounted off the sump on the drivers side, and runs off the 2 belts that run the alt/water pump, etc.
Just enough room to fit it in...now, on ebay at the moment, there is a compresser for sale that is essentially an endless air without brackets. search under "endless air"
Andrew

Post by **Mad Cruiser** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:34 pm

couldn't find endless air on ebay ! :roll:

Post by **dow50r** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:49 pm

OK try this then...put in auction number 4507099625 or look under 4wd parts for sale....
Andrew

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