control arms

Post by **RB zook** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:35 pm

i bent another one. :bad-words:

i know i should strengthen them but does anyone make aftermrket ones?

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:03 pm

If you strengthen them you will rip the mounts off. :cry:

You need to change the design.
SAM

Post by **muppet_man67** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:05 pm

I thought you were going to try and make twister arms. If you do get custom arms made Id be interested in whether you can make them much longer so that you can fit bigger wheels and they wont rub the firewall.

Any pics of the bent arms? I cant picture it. they seem to twist in the bushes rather then bending?

If you made twister arms would they need to be any stronger?

Post by **muppet_man67** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:06 pm

would it work to use some kind of flexible metal? kindof like what they use for sway bars

Post by A1 » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:09 pm

Hey Rb atleast ya only bendin em wen i had my spook i snapped a rear 1 clean in half but fark it flexed well then

...............

yeah as said change the setup there used to be a wild coily up here that a mate owned (till it got flogged ) .............he out fitted it with 5 link front n rear by himself .........fukin sweet rig

A1

Post by **RB zook** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:13 pm

yeah i should buy a mig and make myself a 5 link

for now i think ill just strenthen the strait arms and them when i can afford it ill rethink the suspention setup.

that was HRZOOK who is in the process of making the twister arms.

Post by A1 » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:15 pm

Yep certainly is i havent spoke to him 4 bit though im sure he will chime in :armsup:

Not sure if he is doin both front and rear i assumed just the front but he may be doin both ends

Post by **RB zook** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:18 pm

yeah he was askin me for measurements and hopefully verry soon he will have them made with ORI poly flex bushes in the diff mounts.

will be good to see how much they cost and how strong they are.

hurry up heath

Post by **muppet_man67** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:26 pm

May seem a stupid question but I havnt yet figured out what is meant by "3 link" or "five link"? please explain

?

Post by **RB zook** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:32 pm

um its sort of hard to explain

Post by A1 » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:37 pm

It refers back to how many points the diff is located back to the chassis........................ structaully not shocks ..........

so lower arms upper arms and panhard on say a patrol or cruiser isa five link

the coily zook only has 3 link front n rear radius arms (links ) and panhard

A1

Post by **muppet_man67** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:57 pm

RB zook wrote:um its sort of hard to explain

How was that hard to explain? lol thanks A1

Post by **stumped** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:38 pm

muppet_man67 wrote:
RB zook wrote:um its sort of hard to explain
How was that hard to explain? lol thanks A1

was hard cos he didn't know what he was talkin 'bout

eh ryan?

Post by **RB zook** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:45 pm

no i was gunna explain how they work and how they are mounted and why a 3 linck is shit.

:finger:

Post by **PAZZ** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:52 pm

Hey, I got 2.5'' lift and stockos, and i was able to snape the top half
off the diff mount off on the drivers side!!! would think the arms would have bent first!

Any ideas on how to make the new ones???

Pazz

Post by **RB zook** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:07 pm

grind the other one off and make 5 link it

Post by **toysuzi** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:50 pm

heath (hr zook) is getting hes arms made for free :armsup:

hes brother in-laws making them (love job)

ryan & others have you thort of using late model pajero radious arms (rear suspension)

96-98 NK 3.0L NL 3.5L & 2.8L diesel MODELS & later 00-02 NM 3.5 & 2.8 turbo intercooled diesel models
same look as cruiser/bundy & partol but use a bolt type mount at chassis end

ive got some pics of the arms fitterd in the rear of a hilux
ill post them after work tomorrow
just incase anyones interested

not saying you should fit the mitsubishi units just an idea to cut cost for you guys. and also gain strength

same (overkill) could fab the mounts & do the fitting for you guys or gonads (m&m)

just a thort.
even better mount them upside down (top off housing) better ground clearance. but may affect coil spring location

daryl

Post by **Mczook** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:49 am

G'day Guys

For what it's worth check out my zook in the M&M Mczook Build topic. Here we made a custom three link plus a panhard for the rear (or 4link depending on how you count your mounting points).

This setup flexes mad and runs the M&M "Gonad's Gear" swivel joints for the upper rear control arm. The lower control arm can also be fitted with the swivel joint or a poly flex bush. Admittedly, all the chassis mounts on my zook were custom made but these type of control arms and swivel joints maybe another alternative.

Cheers
Sean

Post by **toysuzi** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:36 pm

ok here are the pics & cost

second hand pajero radious arm $165.00 a pair

anyway heres the v8 hilux with pajero radious arms fitterd

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:18 pm

RB zook wrote:no i was gunna explain how they work and how they are mounted and why a 3 linck is shit.

And why would three links be Shiat :finger:

Post by **Mczook** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:56 pm

Hey Sam

Dont look shiat to me

Not too bad for a 3 link!

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:01 pm

Mczook wrote:Hey Sam

Dont look shiat to me Not too bad for a 3 link!

We'll show em.

I have said this before I think it is a waste of time playing with the standard Coily setup if you want travel.
In the end it will be less heartache and I think in the end Money just to Change it rather than rapping a bandage around it.
SAM

Post by **RB zook** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:03 pm

im looking at a custom sey up coz atm its shit.

i just want somethink that will hold up while i save the money.

i think a rockhopper is priority, i would love your coil conversion sam but it all comes down to money.

i only earnt 18 grand last financial yr :shock:

Post by **lay80n** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:25 pm

Ryan, how similar is the front arm setup on ya coily to the front arms on a jimny. A fair few issues back in 4wd monthly there was a 6 inch lifted white jimny. In that article the owner had strengthened the front arms cause he was bendin them too. I will have a look for the mag later tonight and post up what he did, but i will prob be beaten by someone else.
Layto....

Post by A1 » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:40 pm

Its Peter Haasmans (sp) jimmny........................the bloke that was commentatin at Tuff truck no.2............

they flex a little betta .....he had a few issues with gettin those arms strengthen from memory ............done a NSW Suzuki club trip with him and quite few others includin Celia and Eugene Barry in the mighty VIT..........to the watagans ages ago wen i owned da spook ............his Jimmny was relatively stock then ,although it was sportin the 6" lift but no rockhopps gears and he was only runnin 30"

A1

Post by **Mczook** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:56 pm

Hey Guys

I think you will find he did have reduction gears, I believe they were the Spidertrax Rockcrawler 4.16:1 gearset Kit. I seem to remember something along the lines that he swapped his Jimny tcase for a sierra. But, I am happy to me corrected. :oops:

Post by **nelligen** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:17 am

RB zook wrote::bad-words:

i bent another one.

i know i should strengthen them but does anyone make aftermrket ones?

are you bending front or rear ?? any photo's ??

Post by **salli** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:59 am

Which month was Peter Haasmans (sp) jimmny in 4wd monthly?? i wanna get a coppy of it.

Post by **RB zook** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:43 pm

nelligen wrote:
RB zook wrote::bad-words:

i bent another one.

i know i should strengthen them but does anyone make aftermrket ones?

are you bending front or rear ?? any photo's ??

ive bent a front one and now the back one :bad-words:

Post by **RB zook** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:48 pm

i know peter and ill have a chat to him

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