Juice box build up

Post by **DeWsE** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:19 pm

Well guys you will remember I started another thread about my car, but it was full of chit chat so this is a new beginning.

Plans are:

RUF (ome med springs)
N76 ome shocks on costom mounts
extended shackles (50x25x3mm C section)
2" BL

rock hoppers (either 6.1 BB or 6.5 calmini)

33x12.5x15 mtr's because I have them already but may change depending if something comes up on the cheap.
15x8 cut and fliped

Will keep you updated

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:22 pm

Anypics???

At least you already have the vehicle before you started this thread.

Post by **DeWsE** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:41 pm

I'll catch a pic asap but at the moment it hasn't really changed sense the last photo's.

I've taken the rock sliders off to modify to suit the BL.
Made the BL blocks with 50x50 shs with crush tube welded inside.

Post by **stumped** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:45 pm

good to see u got some serious plans... what kinda timeframe u looking at?

Post by **DeWsE** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:30 pm

I would like to think about a month to get all the gear from supplies then another to install.

Does anyone know if I use 8 inch rims offset the max from speedy wheels will I touch the springs on full lock?

Post by **lay80n** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:00 pm

On stumpeds rig i think he just can. 31's and big offset speedy desert rat rims. It can be adjusted (lock stop) to stop the tyres hitting, but you will loose slight bit of turning circle, depends what ya want more.
layto....

Post by **Bad JuJu** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:22 pm

I *heard* that lengthening the bolts thus increasing your turning radius means you may keep your birfields together longer as it can not exert force right on the thinnest section.
Sounds just what you need to do if you go big tyres, better engine & gearing, lockers etc.

I prefer not to tempt fate and have installed birfield rings as well.

Post by **nicbeer** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:24 pm

Damn, sounds good.

looks like I have to my a$^ in gear to mod mine a bit more.

cheers

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:39 pm

DeWsE wrote:I would like to think about a month to get all the gear from supplies then another to install.

Does anyone know if I use 8 inch rims offset the max from speedy wheels will I touch the springs on full lock?

I used the 15X7 speedy rims modified for about 2.5 inch back spacing and they still touch the springs (my tyres are a bit taller than a 33 Mtr though.

Post by **DeWsE** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:47 pm

What do your tires measure bigsteve? The mtr's are 860mm which is alot smaller then yours I think.

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:54 pm

DeWsE wrote:What do your tires measure bigsteve? The mtr's are 860mm which is alot smaller then yours I think.

860mm is 34 inches Are 33 MTR's that big??

mine are 850mm if i remember right.

Post by **DeWsE** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:56 pm

My bad I meant 800mm

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:58 pm

DeWsE wrote:My bad I meant 800mm

Doh Tim would have been ecstactic :finger:

Post by **redzook** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:13 pm

bigsteve wrote:
DeWsE wrote:My bad I meant 800mm

Doh Tim would have been ecstactic

ill have bigger tires then ya one day

Post by **christover1** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:17 pm

I run 8" rims, with an offset change of 65mm or 2.5" and they dont hit my nt springs with 31 mt tyres, but did catch on the firewall, which was fixed by bashing and moving axle foreward about 20mm.

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:39 pm

redzook wrote:
bigsteve wrote:
DeWsE wrote:My bad I meant 800mm

Doh Tim would have been ecstactic

ill have bigger tires then ya one day

You reckon i'll be stickin with 34's uh uh.

Post by **DeWsE** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:58 am

Guys should extend the chassis 100mm or 75mm. Can't member what you guys did?

Post by **bigsteve** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:02 pm

Hundred

Post by **stumped** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:27 pm

mine with those speedywheels rims don't rub the springs, but i'm only runnin 31s... ya might have a bit of rubbage with 33s, but i guess u'll get that unless u go spacers or lux axles :?:

Post by **DeWsE** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:38 pm

stumped wrote:mine with those speedywheels rims don't rub the springs, but i'm only runnin 31s... ya might have a bit of rubbage with 33s, but i guess u'll get that unless u go spacers or lux axles

Or reverse the rim centre.

Post by **stumped** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:49 pm

should give u a bit of offset, if u're already going with -28

i've heard that going big offset puts a lot more pressure onto the wheel bearings..???

Post by **bigsteve** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:52 pm

stumped wrote:should give u a bit of offset, if u're already going with -28

i've heard that going big offset puts a lot more pressure onto the wheel bearings..???

The trick is to offset them so the tyres are just off the springs, going for "as much offset as possible" is only going to crap out bearings and make it harder to steer.

Mine stick right out but are only 2.5 inner 4.5 outer (1 inch from centred)

Post by **DeWsE** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:16 pm

Hang on a sec bigsteve are you measuring the 4.5 from the outer edge to the plate that bolts to the hub or to the welds where it joins the outer rim?

Post by **bigsteve** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:20 pm

DeWsE wrote:Hang on a sec bigsteve are you measuring the 4.5 from the outer edge to the plate that bolts to the hub or to the welds where it joins the outer rim?

Should I of just said a 7 inch rim with 2.5 backspacing

Post by **stumped** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:00 pm

bigsteve wrote:The trick is to offset them so the tyres are just off the springs, going for "as much offset as possible" is only going to crap out bearings and make it harder to steer.

bigger offset gives a bit more track tho, making it more stable... i can really notice the difference in mine, comparing -28 to standard offset. that's not huge offset tho, not 'as much as possible'

do spacers act identically, ie putting wear onto the bearings? or are they different somehow?

Post by **lay80n** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:36 pm

Spacers are same on wheel bearings, cause they push the load centre of the wheel from the point between the two wheel bearings to outside that, loading the outer bearing more the outer being the smaller bearing too. I hope this makes sense, as i know what i saying, but the keys are not making sense sorry fellas.
Layto....

Post by **DeWsE** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:34 pm

Todays update:

Just been shopping, ordered the shocks and springs ($130 per shock, $195 per spring) should arrive by this friday. Ordered the rims 15x8 with f100 offset, once I have the rim I will decide if they need reversing.
Bought the bolts for the new shakles. Got hitensile with nylock nuts cost $18 for eight.

So far things are looking good for the time frame that I have set! :armsup:

Post by **christover1** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:33 pm

good to see some cool progress, keep up the good werk, christover

Post by **bigsteve** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:12 pm

DeWsE wrote:Todays update:

Just been shopping, ordered the shocks and springs ($130 per shock, $195 per spring) should arrive by this friday. Ordered the rims 15x8 with f100 offset, once I have the rim I will decide if they need reversing.
Bought the bolts for the new shakles. Got hitensile with nylock nuts cost $18 for eight.

So far things are looking good for the time frame that I have set!

FYI my 32X11.5 MTR's were on the ROH f100 15X8's and touched the springs so i'd say you'll get some rubbage.

Post by **built4thrashing** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:31 pm

i got 31s on F100 / feroza 15x7 rims and they rub on the leaves. im also still running the front bumper without the tyres hitting it.

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