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finaly started my tyre hunting

Post by christover1 »

I have finaly started the hunt for new tyres/tires. I'm totally
bamboozled already :)
I checked out the new Procomp outlet in Ringwood, learnt that the
Motorway Mongrels now come in a retread option,
but only on 31 x 10.50 15's at $149 ea.
The Monoform Mongrel(full remould) in a 32 x 10.50 x 15 is $189
each. (one side is not covered as white lettering on original cases
is not suitable for moulding over)
I noted that the Simex 32 x 10.50 x 15 ET was only 90 bucks more at
$280 per tyre.
Simex MT centipedes are around $140 new, but there is no supply at
moment, so price is subject.
Motorway Monoform mudders (full remould) are $115 and the retread
version is $100 per tyre.
The swampers and mtr's and procomps were out of my reach, so didn't
write them down.
I still considering 2nd hand tyres, as less stressful if damaged :)
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Post by bigsteve »

Perhaps throw a thread in the wanted section, there would be plenty of larger 4x4 owners with sets of 31's that have upgraded.

Or sweet talk bill in to my old MTR's He can buy my LTB's and I'll upgrade ;)
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Re: finaly started my tyre hunting

Post by Barathrum »

christover1 wrote:The Monoform Mongrel(full remould) in a 32 x 10.50 x 15 is $189
each. (one side is not covered as white lettering on original cases
is not suitable for moulding over)


I have these tyres. they work really well in anything clay. mine are a remould on both sides. no white lettering or anything like that.
Mine are now starting to bag ok, but is taken a while, and they only start to once i'm down to 8psi or lower. i think they're softened up a lot with time. or maybe it was just me driving them at low pressures on the highway.
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Post by sierrajim »

I had the motorway muds on my Vitara. They worked pretty well on most surfaces. I tried to trash them as best i could and they have kept going.

They are 30x9.5 15's a little smaller than what you are after i know but you're most welcome to borrow them for a bit if you want to try them out.

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Post by christover1 »

bigsteve wrote:Perhaps throw a thread in the wanted section, there would be plenty of larger 4x4 owners with sets of 31's that have upgraded.

Or sweet talk bill in to my old MTR's He can buy my LTB's and I'll upgrade ;)


I would, but don't actually know what I want :roll:
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Post by Beastmavster »

A friend here had the Standard Simex MT's on his Jeep... they're actually a small 31"... barely scraping past 30" (But in the Aus4wdmonthly you'll notice that's a common issue these days).

Other than that they worked real good and they were really cheap.

Wish they made them in a 33" too... cos for the price I'd be first in line.
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Post by bazooked »

go the simex you wont be dissapointed..
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Post by cj »

Actually they are supposed to be releasing a 33 Simex MT.
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Post by christover1 »

bazooked wrote:go the simex you wont be dissapointed..


you mean MT or ET ? I have 31's at the moment, that only measure 29.5, I need to be a little bigger, as Adventure Tour and other favorite trips are getting more challenging...(or perhaps I need to improve my driving instead ) :D christover
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Post by christover1 »

cj wrote:Actually they are supposed to be releasing a 33 Simex MT.


that could be good, probly be a true 31 or 32 chrustover
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Post by bazooked »

go the et they measure a large 32
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Post by fightara »

Definitely put something up in the wanted section.

I posted there only a week ago, and now have 5 32" Swampers under my Rangie with 90% tread and they cost me only $600!
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Post by muppet_man67 »

Has frog got the gearing for bigger tyres then 31"?
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Post by christover1 »

muppet_man67 wrote:Has frog got the gearing for bigger tyres then 31"?

Frog will be fine on road, as its slightly low geared at the moment, but low range needs lowering anyway, will happen one day, just not quickly, so thats why I thinkinking a max of 32" measured...christover
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Post by Bad JuJu »

I have the 32" full remould Mongerals on my sierra which are an awesome tyre offroad but a little interesting on road in the wet and quite loud too.

The sidewall is bloody thick nearly 16mm and with the tyre pressures down to 6 psi they do not bag much, but the tread contact pattern does elongate to nearly 2.5 times its 35psi size
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As my zook is not really a daily driver I would get them again
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Post by stumped »

fightara wrote:Definitely put something up in the wanted section.

I posted there only a week ago, and now have 5 32" Swampers under my Rangie with 90% tread and they cost me only $600!


damn man, that's awesome!!!! woulda got them myself if i'd seen em!! shame ya didn't have them the other weekend :twisted:


where is the 5th wheel... front or rear axle?? :D
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Post by antt »

i'm happy with my 32x10.5 mongrels
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Post by Gwagensteve »

IMHO Chris, most of your off road problems are not related to tyre diameter but gearing. Personally, I would search for a 2nd hand series 1 RH (within your tyre budget) and find another freebe/cheap set of 31's.

The more traction you add with nice new luggy 31+'s, the more trouble you will have with your marginal gearing. I recko you are already pushing the car much harder than necessary just becuase of teh lack of gearing, more tyre will not help. As it is, you often only keep making progress up stuff ATM due to wheelspin. If it grips, you stall. More tractio will not help this at all.

Just my 2c worth.

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Post by christover1 »

Gwagensteve wrote:IMHO Chris, most of your off road problems are not related to tyre diameter but gearing. Personally, I would search for a 2nd hand series 1 RH (within your tyre budget) and find another freebe/cheap set of 31's.

The more traction you add with nice new luggy 31+'s, the more trouble you will have with your marginal gearing. I recko you are already pushing the car much harder than necessary just becuase of teh lack of gearing, more tyre will not help. As it is, you often only keep making progress up stuff ATM due to wheelspin. If it grips, you stall. More tractio will not help this at all.

Just my 2c worth.

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not interested in a S1 hopper anymore, can't trust them, gotta be an S3 or a 4:1 of another make, I got spoiled driving young Micks with his new 6:1..I surprised its quite driveable on road with the 30's still on...me need tread first, its more noticeable to the boysin blue than lack of gearing..though am still looking into 2nd hand rubber. christover
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Post by bigsteve »

Bill does have his s1 for $800
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Bad JuJu wrote: quite loud too.

this don't matter, the combination of severe hearing loss and lots of racket from diffs, gearboxes, transfer cases, road noises etc etc, make it irrelevant, but vibrations are fun anyway :D christover
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Post by germo »

have 31 ET simex, measure close to 32 pumped right up. asking $900 for set of four on new 8" rims. 98% tread still got dag things on side lugs. ask stumped he's seen them and they havn't moved since.

personal opinion (disclaimer so I don't start an argument) they seem to be a better (read softer) compound than the mongrels good for rocks, and the tread is a bit taller than the mongrels I've seen.

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germo wrote:have 31 ET simex, measure close to 32 pumped right up. asking $900 for set of four on new 8" rims. 98% tread still got dag things on side lugs. ask stumped he's seen them and they havn't moved since.

personal opinion (disclaimer so I don't start an argument) they seem to be a better (read softer) compound than the mongrels good for rocks, and the tread is a bit taller than the mongrels I've seen.

enjoy

clearly new Simex ET's have to outperform a rebuilt Mongrel....but it will be a cost thing...your tyres are a fair price, but I dont need rims (I have 8" rims with a 65mm offset change) and added to shipping costs would make it better for me to buy new with fitting, balancing and warrantee..but thanx for the offer, christover.
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Post by bigsteve »

christover1 wrote:
germo wrote:have 31 ET simex, measure close to 32 pumped right up. asking $900 for set of four on new 8" rims. 98% tread still got dag things on side lugs. ask stumped he's seen them and they havn't moved since.

personal opinion (disclaimer so I don't start an argument) they seem to be a better (read softer) compound than the mongrels good for rocks, and the tread is a bit taller than the mongrels I've seen.

enjoy

clearly new Simex ET's have to outperform a rebuilt Mongrel....but it will be a cost thing...your tyres are a fair price, but I dont need rims (I have 8" rims with a 65mm offset change) and added to shipping costs would make it better for me to buy new with fitting, balancing and warrantee..but thanx for the offer, christover.


If you find a set and need them shipped i'll cover it mate ;)
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Post by muppet_man67 »

germo wrote:
personal opinion (disclaimer so I don't start an argument) they seem to be a better (read softer) compound than the mongrels good for rocks, and the tread is a bit taller than the mongrels I've seen.

enjoy
the tread blocks on the mongrels also looks to be alot further spaced. I would imagine this would mean not as much contact with the ground.?
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Post by christover1 »

bigsteve wrote:If you find a set and need them shipped i'll cover it mate ;)


Thanx mate, I'm surrounded by a great bunch of club mates, will keep that in mind, zoox rule , christover
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Post by fightara »

stumped wrote:
fightara wrote:Definitely put something up in the wanted section.

I posted there only a week ago, and now have 5 32" Swampers under my Rangie with 90% tread and they cost me only $600!


damn man, that's awesome!!!! woulda got them myself if i'd seen em!! shame ya didn't have them the other weekend :twisted:


where is the 5th wheel... front or rear axle?? :D


:rofl:The Swampers are a little smaller than what I was after (the tyres previously on there were 33s) but they'll do me just fine for the moment. I'm so keen to get the old girl back out there now :D

I think I saw your zuk in Gosford today, about 8:45am?
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