3.5l rear diff lock.

[-Scott-]

I've just come back from "City Parts Plus" in Zillmere (Brisbane.) They are wrecking an NJ Exceed, complete with rear diff lock - for those who might be interested?

The diff was there this morning, disc to disc, and I found the "diff lock" switch rattling around in the cabin. If anybody is interested their number is 07 3865 2900, but be ready to argue. Their Mitsubishi "expert" reckons the lock won't work without the transfer case, they won't separate transfer and transmission, and they want "about $2500" for the lot.

Cheers,

Scott

[Grantw]

Gearbox, transfer, complete rear end disc to disc including locker for $2500..... Fawwwk, thats cheap..... Considering the locker alone would be $1500....

Ado on this board is looking for a rear locker.....

[PAJMAN]

Nooooooooooo,

I still haven't fitted the front locker, stop teasing me with more goodies to store on the workbench!!

Sounds like a great deal, must talk to the financial controller.

John

[Bitsamissin]

Thats a good price really.
The cheapest I can get a 3.5 V6 5sp is $1400 and the t/case $550.
So an extra $550 for the disc to disc rear end is a bargain.
Whoever grabs it make sure they grab all the wiring, compressor, 4x4 ECU & switch.
In reality you only need the compressor, diff centre, wire it up to a ARB switch so it can work at any time and get one axle shortened as Ian & Grant showed.

[Grantw]

Or just use the axel that comes out of the car.....

[Adomw]

NJ SWB,

Do they want to sell the lot or will they sell the rear diff separate?

I'll need the rear diff locker as I already have gotten into some major poo with the front locker (switch diff lock off if you need to turn!).., and can't wait to see how much more I could get into with all wheels pushing

Thanks for remembering, Grant

PS any further news on the 3.5l v6 manual crawler gears? ie can I buy some yet?

Ado

[-Scott-]

Hi Ado

They claim you won't make the rear diff work without the transfer, and won't separate transfer and transmission (auto.) If you can convince them you know how to make the lock work without their transfer case you should be able to get just the diff, plus whatever other bits you really need. Hopefully somebody here can give you a run-down on what's essential, and what you can work around.

I thought around $1k would get you what you need?

Scott

[Grantw]

all you need is the complete centre, drivers side axel and compressor. Dont use the factory switch, buy an arb one as its a heap easier to wire up. They are on drugs if they think you need the box and transfer. It is really that easy!

Give em a call and get your locker...!!!

[Adomw]

Thanks lads,

I've rung the number supplied by NJSWB and they are willing to split up the car and sell the bits I need - the problem is that they don't know what I'm talking about soooo..,

I don't s'pose I could ask a favour......,

If I can get a resonable price going at the wrecker, could one of you go to this wreckers and point out which bits I want, please?

I want the diff centre, right axel, little air pump, and tubing from pump to diff centre

Ado (drooling)

PS - are the auto diffs the same ratio as the manuals??

[-Scott-]

Ado

I can probably call in on Friday, but it's shaping up to be a busy day and I won't be able to spend a long time.

Can you get a contact name from the wrecker and a time for me to turn up? And maybe a hint on where the pump should be?

[Adomw]

Scott,

Thanks mate, but I believe that I have established with the wrecker which bits I need. Thanks for the offer anyway.

I've even payed for it all!!

Now all I getta do is get it delivered all the way over here!

Woo hoo I can't believe I'm this close to getting the rear diff lock

Ado

Jees I hope my wife doesn't get wind of this!

[Ian Sharpe]

Ado,

its the left axle that is shorter, the right one or drivers side one is the same as the 'normal' axle.

[Adomw]

Ian,

OK left axel...., so passenger side? how much shorter?

I think i'll cut it as they want $250.00 for the genuine axel.

Do you happen to know where the air pump is hidden??

Ado

[Grantw]

Like the wreckers are ever gunna get the call looking for that axel anyway.. Tite ass priks. Jump up and down, its no good to them. Its a part that makes the whole system complete...... How much did you pay for it Ado? (if im allowed to ask)

[J Top]

3 litre SWB,the pump is behind the left rear trim panel,beside the left rear seat.
3 litre LWB,I think the pump is under the rear seat.
J Top
PS there is a 4.6 diff locking head available over here,head only,freight may be the killer.

[Ian Sharpe]

Ado,

The compressor is under the rear drivers side seat , in the compartment, its held in place with 3 small bolts.

Its easy to get out but a bugger to put back in. Make sure they test it before you buy it. Otherwise I gues you could use a pressure reduction valve & use your ARB comprressor. The original one runs at about 5 PSI.

The left axle is about 7mm shorter than the standard axle. You could grind off the extra with an angle grinder, or if you wanted to be flash use a metal drop saw.

There is no way you could get the axle resplined as the meat is not there since the splines are actually larger than the axle shaft.

If you plan on using the switch in the diff to illuminate your dash light , make sure that the switch actually works first, mine didnt & I only found out after I had installed the diff centre. It was $90 for a newie.

To power the switch in the diff use a loop from one of the wires in the body harness that you will find near the diff compressor compartment, I think it was the blue/white one from memory. That way your indication circuit is separate from your compressor circuit.

I originally used the original dash locker switch to run the compressor (you need to use a latch relay if you go this way) but since I got the ARB front locker I am using ARB switches now to keep the look all the same.

The ARB switch is about $16.

If you have any trouble , you can contact me

valian@goulburn.net.au

Good luck!

cheers

[Adomw]

Grant,

Yeh roger the price of the axel, also the frieght company wanted and additional $50.00 to move the axel ( because of it's length )

The prices are as follows

Diff $650.00
pump $50.00
Freight $140.00

Totals $840.00

Not too bad - I guess - i have been quoted $1500.00 just for the diff!

Ian

Thanks for the info on the diff installation - if I read you right the pump goes under the flap (where the jack is on the passenger side) under the drivers side of the rear bench seat (not the 6th and 7th dicky seats)

Thanks again for your help

I'll ket you know if it all comes off!

Question to anyone with the factory set up - can the diff lock be engaged anytime or can it only be engaged when your in 4WD?

Ado

PS have to change my profile again!

[South]

Can only be engaged when in 4WD, from memory you cant lock it whilst in 4H... lol when you have one you dont use it, when you dont have one you want one, hehe

[Adomw]

South,

Thanks for the info

Next time your on holiday - come to sunny Geradlton - i'll show you some diff lock country, we could have a ball!

Ado

[-Scott-]

The "only engaged in 4WD" would be thanks to the Mitsu ECU. If Ado does his own install without the Mitsu ECU there wouldn't be anything to stop him engaging it in 2WD. Would that be a good idea? I don't know.

The Mitsu ECU also disengages it at high speed, doesn't it?

Scott

[Adomw]

Scott

Yeah, I can wire it to work in any mode - just thinking of my wife dropping her purse on the switch and locking the rear diff in the hungry jacks car park or something!!

I might just hook it in with the front locker, which I've wired to be disabled in 2WD mode

Ado

[M1S3RY]

Just looked at the manual and it the diff lock will only work in 4LO. If the diff lock is in and you change into 4HI or 2HI it will automatically unlock.. (Super Select 4WD)

[Adomw]

Hello

Just a final note you can't cut down the standard axel to fit in the NJ the core of the spline stops the axel from going fully home

You have to get the correct exel

Ado

It's all in and working fine