HID H1 kit in spotties

Post by **Gordo** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:19 am

Am intending to put a 5000K H1 HID kit (off ebay) in some Lightforce 140's for a windscreen mounted BAF (Bright As F%^$) solution.

Anyone tried this before ?

Not sure if it would cook the plakky lense/cover...

Post by **eliteforce32** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:28 pm

i have these 5000k h1's in my narva bull lamps..on the roll bar of my rig and they just about give u a tan when standing in ront but don't draw many amps!

Post by **turps** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:45 pm

SO what brand are they and how much. As I like the idea of getting a cheap Narva housing and then whack these in there.

Post by **Gordo** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:56 pm

The brand of the ebay ones I've seen is Techone and I stuffed up - they're 8000k not 5000k

Post by **eliteforce32** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:01 pm

well mine are 5000k and they are actually ipf inserts??? who would of thught...well the lights a re narva bullies and the boys at boab...local foury shop while ordering me the up grade lights for the up grades..ordered these as well for me to try out...they are 86 buck for the pair...they have the same bulb patteren as any other narva or compatable light..i thought it strange that ipf made varients to fot into other lights...
can't remeber the part no. but if intereted i could ring t he boys to get it!

cheers

Post by **turps** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:34 pm

Here's a link to the ones I found on ebay. Bit more than I thought but not to bad.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... 64758&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... 78101&rd=1

the first one seems the better off the 2. Not sure why there is such a large price differance.

Post by **flat4** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:28 pm

I wouldn't buy 8000K inserts. They will be really purple which will greatly reduce the amount of visible light output.

They will also attact a lot of attention from the boys in blue. And with possibly non-ADR compliant lighing you do not need this.

Get 4-5000K for maximum visibility and less chance of being stopped.

Steve

Post by **up2nogood** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:45 pm

Are the ebay jobbies any good?

Post by **Gordo** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:33 am

They r to be used for offroad only (in LF 140's) so plod ain't an issue. Just concerned if the front will become a molten puddle of plastic or go yellow.

Was also concerned the ebay jobs are for streeters with not much thought to weatherproofing. Spose being on windshield hinges they will be protected from most water/mud that could cause probs.

ef32, $86 a pair ? Pretty sure we're not talking the same thing. Poss yours is an upgraded IPF H1 bulb and not a true HID.

eg LF HIDs are $1000 rrp ea. They also have a little box of magic attached to each (transformer??) to get the 1000's of volts needed to make them work whilst only drawing 35w actual power

Post by **80UTE** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:37 am

To get the full advantage of HID tech the reflector and the lense is i vital part of a HID lighting system . By simply retrofitting a HID globe system into an existing light will not give the full performance of a purpose built HID light assembly as it was put previously you get what you pay for. :shock:

Wally.

Post by **flat4** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:24 am

eliteforce32 wrote:well mine are 5000k and they are actually ipf inserts??? who would of thught...well the lights a re narva bullies and the boys at boab...local foury shop while ordering me the up grade lights for the up grades..ordered these as well for me to try out...they are 86 buck for the pair...they have the same bulb patteren as any other narva or compatable light..i thought it strange that ipf made varients to fot into other lights...
can't remeber the part no. but if intereted i could ring t he boys to get it!

cheers

Are these not the HIR inserts which are an IPF speciality? They produce more light than halogen, but less than HID. But the price is right!

Steve

Post by **eliteforce32** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:30 pm

yep...i thought it strange that ipf made lights for other brands!

Post by **Gordo** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:40 pm

80UTE wrote:To get the full advantage of HID tech the reflector and the lense is i vital part of a HID lighting system . By simply retrofitting a HID globe system into an existing light will not give the full performance of a purpose built HID light assembly as it was put previously you get what you pay for.

Wally.

Yeah agreed. That's why I want them for my lf 140's and not my skanky 3 yo nitestalkers

Does anyone know if HIDs put out more/less heat ?

It's less Watts but more CP so not sure of heat ?

Post by **morkz** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 3:26 pm

Gordo wrote:Am intending to put a 5000K H1 HID kit (off ebay) in some Lightforce 140's for a windscreen mounted BAF (Bright As F%^$) solution.

Anyone tried this before ?

Not sure if it would cook the plakky lense/cover...

yeh there was guy off ebay but he has shop also i think it was called intuitive performances or somthing he was selling cheep H1 HID kits about $500 for any colour range of 6000k-8000k.

i thought about doing but would rather just do headlights then i got told it's illegal and apparently when i went back to vic roads they wouldnt give me anything in writing.

cheers

Post by **derangedrover** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:27 pm

Gordo wrote:
80UTE wrote:To get the full advantage of HID tech the reflector and the lense is i vital part of a HID lighting system . By simply retrofitting a HID globe system into an existing light will not give the full performance of a purpose built HID light assembly as it was put previously you get what you pay for.

Wally.

Yeah agreed. That's why I want them for my lf 140's and not my skanky 3 yo nitestalkers

Does anyone know if HIDs put out more/less heat ?

It's less Watts but more CP so not sure of heat ?

Less heat.

Provided the HID lamp envelope is in the same position as the original globe filament the performance will be the same other than the 'polarisation' of a halogen lamp is no longer an issue.

LF still use the same materials in the lens and reflector for their HID's as their halogen lamps so there wont be a problem in that respect.

Finding the length for a HID lamp in the LF might be an issue you need to check, back into the body of the light i mean.

Find out where the ballasts are made and what sort of connectors they are using. If the ballasts aren't hella or made in germany (korean or se asian) I would be cautious, and if the connectors aren't 'weatherpack' type like on most efi gear with a labarynth seal they wont be much chop in a 4by.

For a second opinion, have a chat to Frank Tidswell at Xenonoz. Knows lots and is very helpful. I have no affiliation with him, but have bought product of him and was happy with price, service and info.

<_frank_@_xenonoz.com_>, 02 4861 3622

Cheers
Daryl

Post by **Gordo** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:19 am

Ta for the info Daryl

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