5 Link On 80

Post by **crankycruiser** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:18 pm

Any Feedback would be good about this subject...

Am seriously thinking of getting one for the 80 as looks like insurance isn't gunna fix it!! (hole nother story)

Anyway where is the best place to inquire about these??

Whats the drivability on road like??

Any draw backs that anyone knows of???

Cheers Ray.

Post by **ORSM45** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:21 pm

some people recon they are too loose. like driving along with flat tyres and loose wheel nuts.

but depends on how you set it up.

flex awesome. but do you really need that much flex?

is the extra flex worth the extra hassles?

Post by **RV80** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:21 pm

http://www.overkill4x4.com/suspension.html#anchor_28

Post by **crankycruiser** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:39 pm

383FJ45 wrote:some people recon they are too loose. like driving along with flat tyres and loose wheel nuts.

but depends on how you set it up.

flex awesome. but do you really need that much flex?

is the extra flex worth the extra hassles?

I have to replace my front diff housing, trailing arms and panhard rods anyway after an accident so I figure I might as well have a look at doing it....

Post by **crankycruiser** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:42 pm

RV wrote:http://www.overkill4x4.com/suspension.html#anchor_28

It say's that they will not supply the kit unless they can install it themselves......

I'm in Tassie.. :cry:

Post by **hypo** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:00 am

email them or PM OVERKILL ENGINEERING from this board and have a chat about it maybe u can work somethin out Sam is a pretty reasonable guy and always willing 2 help out

Post by **ferog** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:00 am

Who on the board has a 5 link in their 80 series?

Post by **80UTE** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:42 am

I do and its a big jobbie a done mine with all straight control arms and kept a 240mm vertical distance between the upper and lower control arms so the diff dosen't twist too much under braking torque. I put 360' rotators on all my adjustable control arms as it helps to be able to adjust caster to get the handling right. Mine handles real good concidering i have over 12 travel in the front and the cornering just takes some getting used to.

Wally

Post by **pcman** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:55 am

daz is doing 5link on his 40

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... &start=420

page 14 for pics

Post by **Surfection** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:10 am

I would give Cheezy a call. He's nice and close to you and has extensive experience with linked front suspension set ups.

http://www.cheezyracing.com.au/

From the website - "We also offer a 5 link front suspension. Our 5 link offer great articulation properties, whilst also ensuring the steering is tight and uncompromising.

Built specifically to suit your requirements. Please call us for specifics on this and to discuss your requirements. Pricing: A-Frame - $2000+ ,
5-Link - $2200+"

Post by **dow50r** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:41 pm

Isnt there a bolt on 5 link kit for the 80 series?? Mr Mannell advertises them.
Andrew

Post by **RV80** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:06 pm

dow50r wrote:Isnt there a bolt on 5 link kit for the 80 series?? Mr Mannell advertises them.
Andrew

i thought they are GQ bolt on kits?

Post by **crankycruiser** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:34 pm

I rang Mannell motors today and he told me that he wont even install them in an 80 because they drive like shit on the road... reckons they r a waste of time.

Anyway more comments would be appreciated..

Thanks Guys

Post by **RV80** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:38 pm

what about radius arm flip? i believe overkill make
the plates for about 180 bucks. offers a bit better
flex.

Post by **crankycruiser** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:58 pm

er heard of em.. What do they do??

Post by **RV80** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:07 pm

put the front control arm's on top of the diff, allowing
correct castor(no plates or corection bushes, just standard
factory 1's) allow's room for thicker moly steering rod's.
and that's all i know send overkill a pm.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... lip+plates

Post by **ORSM45** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:03 pm

thats the way i got my arms on my 45 (with 80 arms)

theres nothing hanging below the housing.

Post by **crankycruiser** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:28 pm

How hard is it to set up?

Post by **RV80** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:32 pm

crankycruiser wrote:How hard is it to set up?

i'd imagine the hardest part would be setting up for
correct castor. cut the old brackets off and throw
in the bin. fit the arms on top with the new plates
bolted on. work out the castor and start welding.
don't quote me. this is just a guess.

Post by **Daisy** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:22 am

RV wrote:
crankycruiser wrote:How hard is it to set up?

i'd imagine the hardest part would be setting up for
correct castor. cut the old brackets off and throw
in the bin. fit the arms on top with the new plates
bolted on. work out the castor and start welding.
don't quote me. this is just a guess.

thought they were bolt on :?:

As the cruisers do have an extra bolt hole at the top and its just a matter of makin a plate to suit :?:

No idea either.. someone fill us in?

Post by **MY45** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:45 am

crankycruiser wrote:I rang Mannell motors today and he told me that he wont even install them in an 80 because they drive like shit on the road... reckons they r a waste of time.

Anyway more comments would be appreciated..

Thanks Guys

I recon he's full of shit. Ive heard of lots of 5 links woring on cruisers......Go with overkill or cheezy :cool:

Post by **65Mog** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:54 am

crankycruiser wrote:I rang Mannell motors today and he told me that he wont even install them in an 80 because they drive like shit on the road... reckons they r a waste of time.

Anyway more comments would be appreciated..

Thanks Guys

I'd say listen to Mannell, have a think about running the arms on top of the housing this is a good mod on 80s.

Post by **RV80** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:35 pm

what' the verdict cranky

Post by **ORSM45** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:32 pm

dont throw the old mounts in the bin, you reuse them im pretty sure.

wouldnt say flex would change as its the housings resistance to twist that stops the articulation. it just doesnt have anything lower than the housing.

personally id stick with the radius arms. more stable at speeds.

flex is overrated. especially if it causes engineers to kick up a fuss and stuff you around.

Post by **RV80** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:35 pm

383FJ45 wrote:dont throw the old mounts in the bin, you reuse them im pretty sure.

new laser cut plates $180 from overkill

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:46 pm

The flip plates don't allow more travel as they can't.
They do allow you to get the castor correct without having the tie rod hitting the radius arms and as they make the arms sit alot flatter handles heaps better.
SAM

Post by **RV80** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:23 pm

was i right about the price?

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:49 am

RV wrote:was i right about the price?

yes

Post by **crankycruiser** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:10 pm

RV wrote:what' the verdict cranky

Going to go the flip arms I would say....

Talked to Sam and it sounds a hole lot easier than the five link and I still want it to be driveable on road so it looks like the way to go...

Thanks for all the advice fellas.

Just gotta get the cruizer bac now so I can do it!!

Post by **Reddo** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:04 am

crankycruiser wrote:
RV wrote:what' the verdict cranky

Going to go the flip arms I would say....

Talked to Sam and it sounds a hole lot easier than the five link and I still want it to be driveable on road so it looks like the way to go...

Thanks for all the advice fellas.

Just gotta get the cruizer bac now so I can do it!!

Though you would go that way

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