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ROCKHOPPER CARNAGE

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ROCKHOPPER CARNAGE

Post by redzook »

am i the first to bust a series 3 in aus? :x

i striped a few teeth off one gear :bad-words:
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Re: ROCKHOPPER CARNAGE

Post by Damo »

redzook wrote:am i the first to bust a series 3 in aus? :x

i striped a few teeth off one gear :bad-words:


I am sure I remember someone else breaking one.

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Post by DeWsE »

Nope your not!
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Post by grimbo »

who would have thought it was posible to break some gears on that rock :finger:
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Post by DeWsE »

grimbo wrote:who would have thought it was posible to break some gears on that rock :finger:


Read the sticker on the back. Thats how it was built!
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Post by stumped »

that sux tim!!!! u gonna be covered by warranty, or up for a new one? u gonna borrow steve's for the trials??





slightly on topic, has anyone heard of the calmini equivalent busting?
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Post by Shorty40 »

Bummer dude. Hope you were wheelin not posing :finger:

Are you going to be good for the Trials ?
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Post by redzook »

if i rember correctly the other dude had dirt and all shit in his case
and not lookin after it (i think that is what liam said when the checked the case out) and the only other one i know of is GODZUKI off pirate but with rockwells and 53's anything can break

i thought they would hold up a little longer with a 1.3 and 33's :x
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Post by redzook »

Shorty40 wrote:Bummer dude. Hope you were wheelin not posing :finger:

Are you going to be good for the Trials ?


yeh will be ready for trials will borrow another tcase

as its an 8 week wait for 1 gear :cry:
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Post by grimbo »

redzook wrote:if i rember correctly the other dude had dirt and all shit in his case
and not lookin after it (i think that is what liam said when the checked the case out) and the only other one i know of is GODZUKI off pirate but with rockwells and 53's anything can break

i thought they would hold up a little longer with a 1.3 and 33's :x


all it takes is a slight misalignment when it was being installed or there could be some misalignment with t/case drive shafts etc. Doesn't take much if something is out of whack.

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Post by redzook »

i have had the rockhopper 1 year and 3 months

if somthing was misaligned it would have went long b4 now ;)

was just playin on some rocks and when we headed off u could hear it clicking couldnt notice it till i got upto bout 10km/h
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Post by grimbo »

redzook wrote:i have had the rockhopper 1 year and 3 months

if somthing was misaligned it would have went long b4 now ;)

was just playin on some rocks and when we headed off u could hear it clicking couldnt notice it till i got upto bout 10km/h


I had my series 1 for 1 year 2 months when it suddenly went, came down to bad installation, no circlip.
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Post by DeWsE »

grimbo wrote:
redzook wrote:i have had the rockhopper 1 year and 3 months

if somthing was misaligned it would have went long b4 now ;)

was just playin on some rocks and when we headed off u could hear it clicking couldnt notice it till i got upto bout 10km/h


I had my series 1 for 1 year 2 months when it suddenly went, came down to bad installation, no circlip.


Circlip? Where?
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Post by Wolverine »

My mate broke his after only having them a short time. His case was new and stuff. He was told they do not do warranty on them anymore.

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Post by Wolverine »

Heres another look

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Post by redzook »

thats the same gear as mine that let go

although mine dint take quite as many teeth

what are the specs of ya mates zook
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Post by Liam »

Its amazing how when something breaks, the leading brand gets the blame..... Please be advised that the gear breakage being discussed are NOT Rockhopper gears........ they we believe are imports of a lesser quality...... I have one of these gears( being discussed) in front of me and it is not marked or cut the same as a Rockhopper ( Brand) gear........ I will post on the www.bbmotorsport.com.au site pictures of the broken gear and the GENUINE rockhopper gear for all to see......... better still pop into our Sydney store and have a look for yourselves.
I am happy to examine anyones gear purchase and confirm if its a REAL ROCKHOPPER gear.
I have distributors throughout Australia that sell our Rockhopper gears and will be happy to confirm that they are our agents..... talk to Me , Rick or Brett in Qld........ The owners of BBM will execute whatever legal avenues available to them against anyone that purpotes that non genuine Rockhoppers are the same or misrepresents their origin
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Post by DeWsE »

Redzook those pictures are from Drew’s car. His specs are 1.6 supercharged toy motor, with 33 / 12’5 BFG mud terrain. Add heavy foot in their somewhere as well.

Liam, where do these inferior products come from?

I noticed when I received mine there was one marked in a different box. But at the same time I think it may have had rock hopper written on it.

Are you running a S3 in your rig with the 36’s?
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Post by Liam »

Sewse, Don't want to say where the other gears come from.

Yes I'm running S3 with 36's and modded 1.6L (It's in bits again with the dash out for a couple more mods)
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Post by christover1 »

Liam wrote:Sewse, Don't want to say where the other gears come from.

Yes I'm running S3 with 36's and modded 1.6L (It's in bits again with the dash out for a couple more mods)


How do I make sure I am buying the right/real Rockhopper. I'm in the outer east of Melbourne. I am on a disability pension, its going to take a long time to save, and I don't want to get burnt. Also are the new S1's as good as the S3's? The only reason for wanting S3, is to avoid the earlier S1 issues. S1 would be better gearing for me, as probably won't go over 31" -32" boots. christover
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Post by DeWsE »

Liam wrote:Yes I'm running S3 with 36's and modded 1.6L (It's in bits again with the dash out for a couple more mods)


Well thats proof enough for me! They must be pretty strong, but like every thing that's been taken into extreme places, it's gonna break from time to time.
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Post by stumped »

christover1 wrote:
Liam wrote:Sewse, Don't want to say where the other gears come from.

Yes I'm running S3 with 36's and modded 1.6L (It's in bits again with the dash out for a couple more mods)


How do I make sure I am buying the right/real Rockhopper. I'm in the outer east of Melbourne. I am on a disability pension, its going to take a long time to save, and I don't want to get burnt. Also are the new S1's as good as the S3's? The only reason for wanting S3, is to avoid the earlier S1 issues. S1 would be better gearing for me, as probably won't go over 31" -32" boots. christover


and what 'bout install? are we covered with warranty (if there is any) if we put them in ourselves? who in syd (and melb for chris) are authorised installers?
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Post by Guy »

christover1 wrote:
Liam wrote:Sewse, Don't want to say where the other gears come from.

Yes I'm running S3 with 36's and modded 1.6L (It's in bits again with the dash out for a couple more mods)


How do I make sure I am buying the right/real Rockhopper. I'm in the outer east of Melbourne. I am on a disability pension, its going to take a long time to save, and I don't want to get burnt. Also are the new S1's as good as the S3's? The only reason for wanting S3, is to avoid the earlier S1 issues. S1 would be better gearing for me, as probably won't go over 31" -32" boots. christover


go to a rockhopper authorised agent I would say .. is total 4wd still a rockhopper dealer ??
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Post by HRZOOK »

redzook wrote:
Shorty40 wrote:Bummer dude. Hope you were wheelin not posing :finger:

Are you going to be good for the Trials ?


yeh will be ready for trials will borrow another tcase

as its an 8 week wait for 1 gear :cry:


Hey Tim

What sort of $$$$ for 1 gear?

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Post by bigsteve »

love_mud wrote:
christover1 wrote:
Liam wrote:Sewse, Don't want to say where the other gears come from.

Yes I'm running S3 with 36's and modded 1.6L (It's in bits again with the dash out for a couple more mods)


How do I make sure I am buying the right/real Rockhopper. I'm in the outer east of Melbourne. I am on a disability pension, its going to take a long time to save, and I don't want to get burnt. Also are the new S1's as good as the S3's? The only reason for wanting S3, is to avoid the earlier S1 issues. S1 would be better gearing for me, as probably won't go over 31" -32" boots. christover


go to a rockhopper authorised agent I would say .. is total 4wd still a rockhopper dealer ??


Yep, thats why I spent the extra $300, piece of mind.
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Post by christover1 »

I think the problem is that we use the term Rockhopper, like we do Hoover. The brand name has become just a name for all vaacuum cleaners, and in this case all transfer reduction gears get called rockhoppers...maybe..
In my case, I say "I'm saving for a rockhopper", when I mean whatever t-case gearing is suitable, reliable, accessible and affordable, at the time.
Until now I wasn't aware of the cheap rip-offs, but the world is like that, and I could of guessed there would be some.
Don't think there is a solution, its just a comment.
Incorrect info is often spread by other makers, too, in an effort to undermine the originals. It's hard to find the truth, sometimes...
Gee I'm getting cynical in my old age :D christover
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Post by mudfkr »

Redzook,

Did you buy / fit the gears yourself or did you purchase the truck with them fitted ? And if so do you know what "brand" these gears are or are you just using the term "rockhopper" to cover all brands of T/case gears ?

Liam,

While I was looking around the B/Balls site I noticed that the Vitara gears are the only ones they offer with a warranty with them still, whys that :?

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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

[quote="Liam"]Its amazing how when something breaks, the leading brand gets the blame..... Please be advised that the gear breakage being discussed are NOT Rockhopper gears........ they we believe are imports of a lesser quality......



Liam as the gears in question were purchased through you under the understanding that they were ROCKHOPPER GEARS does that mean they will be replaced with a genuine set.
And as one the one gear that has failed runs on 2 others if there was an alignment or bearing problem then there would be damage on the other gears which we bothe agreed to.
You need to relax no-one was bagging the gears and now you have tried to turn in around on to me by making it seem i didnt fit what the customer had paid for.
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

All that said.
Tims truck would probably had the most amount of wheeling time out of anyone on here or by anyone than runs a 6.1 geaset. It is driven nearly every weekend .And it is driven for what it was built for.Nothing is unbreakable. Whilst the gear has failed the rest of the transfer was in excellent condition.
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Post by antt »

and here i was thinking sand wasn't hard on components :finger:
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