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Post by Elmo »

Please.............pretty pretty please show us
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Post by ToNkA »

Here we go. Did this in 2001/2002

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Post by Elmo »

DAM thats sexy, very professional.....wanna do mine???

in all seriousness tho, what is actually required to do this, i really wanna do this to my 85 X-tra cab
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Post by ToNkA »

You measure - Use string to mark your cut lines then spray over them in paint. Remove string and there is your cut lines.

You cut - Used a Jigsaw so that I would not have to do lots of work later getting a clean join for welding.

You weld - Slow stitch welds so that you dont warp the metal.

You fill - Bog it up to remove the seam and bumps.

You sand - Like a mofo.

You paint - Colour of choice.
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Post by Elmo »

you make it sound so easy :rofl:
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Post by ToNkA »

Starting Saturday morning, we were ready to paint by sunday night, working all weekend.
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Post by Elmo »

oh.....you soooo should not have told me that :lol:

i can vividly see another weekend dissapearing soon, and i really gotta get it finsihed before i start mucking around on bob's

do you reckon that would pass a qld dot???
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Post by Tonito »

A very nice piece of work!

It looks fantastic ... here in germany we have some hilux-freaks, too - so look @ that:
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HERE you can see a german report with some pics.
Maybe you can enjoy the report using the google-translator.

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Post by benhl »

:cool: Sexy yellow tray!!!! :cool: I have a SC and i'm now seriously considering doing the bob! It looks great! How much for a panel beater to do ti - no time these days :roll:

Couple of Q's. did you shorten the chassis at all from behind the rear shackle mounts? do you loose one of the mounting points for the tray to chasssis in this process? Is it legal - in QLD if you know but anywhere will do.

Look forward to the feedback - But farq - cool!
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Post by ToNkA »

No idea how much for a pannel beater, did it myself.

Cut the chassis up to the shackle mounts.

You lose one mounting point, but you lose the tray that its supporting.

I don't live in Qld.

If you can alternate between styleside and dropside trays etc, I dont see why you can not have a custom tray on the back and have it be illegal. Its load space, not passenger space.
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Post by benhl »

Hey Elmo - rang around this arvo and apparently mods to the tray dont concern DOT QLD, If i was to do this mod though i would be shortining the chassis too.

If the chassis is cut back only to the rear brace - again apparently no drama. If the brace is moved to get Shorter chassis it needs to be engineered. (note the use of "apparently")

On Track 4x4 at springwoog will do the mod and cert it for..... wait for it..... $66 an hour, no indicatiuon of how long to do it. they have not done anything like this b4 and are keen to do it however will not give a price at this stage. still looking into it though.

2 questions

1 - are you a panel beater?
2 - if so can i pay you?
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Post by Elmo »

hey benhl
be good to hear how you go woth your research, cause im definately doing this now,
no im not a panel beater, it'd be handy but no, just me and a couple of mates who work looonnngggggg into the nights on our rigs...like tonight :lol:
once i've done mine i'll let you know how i go if you havnt beaten me to it by that point
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Post by diesel028 »

Im definitely gonna do this as ive picked up a well....cheap!!
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Post by high n mighty »

diesel028 wrote:Im definitely gonna do this as ive picked up a well....cheap!!


Yeah, better pick it up then matey :D
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Post by diesel028 »

high n mighty wrote:
diesel028 wrote:Im definitely gonna do this as ive picked up a well....cheap!!


Yeah, better pick it up then matey :D


im working on it :finger:
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Post by Da Lux »

looks pretty nice, and yr dep angle must be pretty mad now
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Post by eliteforce32 »

hey elmo what are u doing tonight are we working on the rig or not? i saw gave tried last night.... just work its been a killer.
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Post by benhl »

Hi Guys i got a quote on this from a backyard panel beater (apparently good quality work though) he said $1100 plus bog and paint.

What do you reckon - is this a good price? I'm goign to get another quote on Fri but reckon this sounds reasonable.

Wait and compare i suppose. :armsup:
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Post by benhl »

I want one of those b4 and after pics done on my car but i cant host pics!!!

if I can email them to someone can you chop and post or maybe someone can post and then someone else can chop and Tonka????

any help guys? :oops: HEELPP!
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Post by -Richo- »

Is it legal to cut the chassis back to the shackle mounts? engineer required? Im going to chop my tray and wanted to chop the chassis too but figured its a no no... im in NSW.

I can host your pics Benhl, ill PM you.
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Post by ToNkA »

benhl wrote:Hi Guys i got a quote on this from a backyard panel beater (apparently good quality work though) he said $1100 plus bog and paint.

What do you reckon - is this a good price? I'm goign to get another quote on Fri but reckon this sounds reasonable.

Wait and compare i suppose. :armsup:


If you think its a good price then it is.

Simple.

I did mine for 1/5 of that.
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Post by diesel028 »

ToNkA wrote:
benhl wrote:Hi Guys i got a quote on this from a backyard panel beater (apparently good quality work though) he said $1100 plus bog and paint.

What do you reckon - is this a good price? I'm goign to get another quote on Fri but reckon this sounds reasonable.

Wait and compare i suppose. :armsup:


If you think its a good price then it is.

Simple.

I did mine for 1/5 of that.


personally, I wouldnt pay that much. Id find some1 from on here that lives close to u and is willing to help you out with the job and that only wants payment in beer or something easy like that.

Find out exactly what needs doing to bob the ute, do what u can urself and when u get stuck thats when u call on the guys from here....... :armsup:
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Post by eliteforce32 »

ok guys just did mine... but mine is not style side... will try and get pics up tomorow! but what im after, sorry to hijack the thread, is what do u guys do for towbar setup... i have not cut the chassis back yet just the tray and it does look dicky but yeah need some ideas?
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Post by ToNkA »

diesel028 wrote:
ToNkA wrote:
benhl wrote:Hi Guys i got a quote on this from a backyard panel beater (apparently good quality work though) he said $1100 plus bog and paint.

What do you reckon - is this a good price? I'm goign to get another quote on Fri but reckon this sounds reasonable.

Wait and compare i suppose. :armsup:


If you think its a good price then it is.

Simple.

I did mine for 1/5 of that.




personally, I wouldnt pay that much. Id find some1 from on here that lives close to u and is willing to help you out with the job and that only wants payment in beer or something easy like that.

Find out exactly what needs doing to bob the ute, do what u can urself and when u get stuck thats when u call on the guys from here....... :armsup:



Well as no one I know actually went and got quotes for it, I have no idea what one would pay. If you are happy with the price given then its a good price for that person. Not for everyone, but its relative.

I could do everything myself not including the welding which is only one part. I used a jigsaw to cut it and a grinder to neaten the join. Anyone can do that. Its just measuring and cutting. I acutally used the guide posted above in the link.

Then you clamp it, and get someone to weld. Then you grind, sand bog, paint. It just takes time doing it yourself.

It was basically my 2nd mod to the truck I ever did after doing a bodylift. I had no mechanical background as such and it came out great. Check the picture above of the little yellow lux bum.
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Post by benhl »

all valid points about what is a reasonable cost and i have now had 2 other quotes one at $1750 and the other around $3K.

i think i will try it myself and get someone with a welder and experience to re join it.

any takersin Bris?? :lol:
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Post by benhl »

BUMP - Has anyone got any further with this yet? i've been flat out but in the new year will be doing the cut and shut. Are there any other takers out there?

If anyone has done it - are there any pitfalls to watch out for. Going to cut myself and then get it welded and panel beaten. Any ideas on who is cheap :D or dodgy :oops: in Bris?

Keen to hear any feedback whatso ever :P
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Post by diesel028 »

benhl wrote:BUMP - Has anyone got any further with this yet? i've been flat out but in the new year will be doing the cut and shut. Are there any other takers out there?

If anyone has done it - are there any pitfalls to watch out for. Going to cut myself and then get it welded and panel beaten. Any ideas on who is cheap :D or dodgy :oops: in Bris?

Keen to hear any feedback whatso ever :P


same here, have been flat out but will also be picking up my tray in the new year, so ill be even busier as of then :cool:
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Post by -Richo- »

I am going to shorten my tray, im thinking real hard cos once its done its done, certainly looks cool and will give me a better lead out angle, but im just accessing pratical issues.

From what i can gather chopping off the chassis behind the shackle mounts is all good?? no need for engineer?? also i want to weld some bar with a hole in it for a recovery point on each chassis rail, engineer?
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Post by Busiboy »

Dr4op bear, cool handle so (being the half pi$$ed work party guy I am) I won't pick on you.

Guys, I mean Guz plz uz reel worz so tha rest of uz can work out wat tha hell you are talkin bout. plz

They look cool chopped, you can't actually put 1 T in the back of a DC hilux anyway (they stand up on thier tail). long tray is only for long light loads.
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