2 inch spring lift on GQ

Post by **Screwy** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:55 pm

Just picked up a set of 2 inch coils for the Shortie GQ ( thanks holeyhardtop )

Put em in yesterday arvo and now i have the slightest vibration at about 25kms and again at about 50kms.......
really light deep low vibration...

i thought that i wouldnt need any mods when doing the spring lift....

how would i go about fixing this vibration easily and cheaply???

screwy

Post by **Ryan** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 7:29 pm

grease your uni joints

Post by **gqswb** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:10 pm

I think from what i have read round here is that you might need to drop the transfer case down abit with some washers??? I think mine could do with some new springs, I think mine used to have a 2 inch lift......... before the spings sagged. :cry:

Post by **bogged** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:20 pm

gqswb wrote:I think from what i have read round here is that you might need to drop the transfer case down abit with some washers??? I think mine could do with some new springs, I think mine used to have a 2 inch lift......... before the spings sagged.

2in shouldnt need the transfercase touched, but could be tailshaft related, with the extra angle, it will exentuate any issues with unis.. EG if they are on the way out, they will show up more now.

Post by **Beastmavster** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:32 pm

If it was all fine beforehand then I'd say space down the box bit. You can buy a kit for this for about $45 if you're not keen on fishing around for identical washers in the bucket under the workbench

Will only need a little bit by your description. So long as you can clearly state it's not tyres, wheels driveshafts etc. Just a damn obvious reminder.

There's always possibilities it's related to something that's indirectly linked like an stuffed engine mount rubber. Worth checking this out too, common GQ problem.

When I lifted mine I replaced both (stuffed) engine mount rubbers and made sure I regreased all shafts and bearings, so I knew that these were all good.

An update on mine today.... I actually did the alignment some 4 months later.

The big issue with the GQ's is the variability - many SWB get away with 3" no probs (and LWB 4"), but buying a 3" kit and then having issues is never good. Thats why I only went 2".

Of course, some ignore the problem anyway. :roll:

Alignment done on mine today even 2" is actually slightly too much lift... cant quite get correct castor adjustment on the front right, but front left could easy go up another inch and some....

I've had my lift on for a few months without alignment so I'm kinda thinking well... it was ok lifted 50mm without re-alignment I'm sure I can sqeeze some 15mm coil spacers in now... that's only 1/3 the change that I never adjusted before so it wont be that bad.

Post by **Screwy** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:44 am

I greased the slip joint when i did the lift, but not the unis.....
ill check them this arvi...

i think its driveshaft, it feelsl ike driveshaft as its similar to the probs i was having with the mq.....

transfer spacer.......
will look into it and get back to ya.
cheers

Post by **bogged** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:18 am

Beastmavster wrote:The big issue with the GQ's is the variability - many SWB get away with 3" no probs (and LWB 4"), but buying a 3" kit and then having issues is never good. Thats why I only went 2".

thats the thing with shortys, some crumb on here says he has a 6in lift with no mods no hassles.. Me calls bullshit.

Have seen a few with 2in start vibarating others with 3inch and not shake 1 bit.

tis a lottery with shortys.. you may be lucky..

Post by **blkmav** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:20 am

I just went to 3 from 2 and no vibrations. I have adjustable panhards, custom rear trailing arms and gearbox packers. I'm now thinking of pushing my luck and going to 4 before I buy new shocks

Post by **KIWI** » Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:13 pm

My shorty has a 2" lift, with 12mm packers, and it still vibrates :cry:

Dave

Post by **Screwy** » Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:33 pm

KIWI wrote:My shorty has a 2" lift, with 12mm packers, and it still vibrates

Dave

bugger man, i hope mines not like that.... will chuck some packers in it tomorrow i think.

screwy

Post by **robbie** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:05 pm

just did my ~2.5" lift, have some vibes.. my GQ SWB is an auto, so apparantly it is going to be a prick for me (autos vibe more on shorties & are harder to fix??)

Post by **bogged** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:08 pm

robbie wrote:just did my ~2.5" lift, have some vibes.. my GQ SWB is an auto, so apparantly it is going to be a prick for me (autos vibe more on shorties & are harder to fix??)

Gearbox packers and you should be ok. it drops the box down a little

Post by **robbie** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:10 pm

bogged wrote:
robbie wrote:just did my ~2.5" lift, have some vibes.. my GQ SWB is an auto, so apparantly it is going to be a prick for me (autos vibe more on shorties & are harder to fix??)

Gearbox packers and you should be ok. it drops the box down a little

hope so..

Post by **bilby** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:11 pm

is this problem only with SHORTYS or in LWB as well ?????????

Post by **blkmav** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:13 pm

bilby wrote:is this problem only with SHORTYS or in LWB as well ?????????

both - but not mine :finger:

Post by **robbie** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:21 pm

robbie wrote:
bogged wrote:
robbie wrote:just did my ~2.5" lift, have some vibes.. my GQ SWB is an auto, so apparantly it is going to be a prick for me (autos vibe more on shorties & are harder to fix??)

Gearbox packers and you should be ok. it drops the box down a little

hope so..

to add to this, after driving it today, between 65-85 k's, if I feather the throttle, it makes a grinding sound? weird shit, anyone experienced this?

Post by **KIWI** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:57 pm

Mine does the same, and in between gear changes, even with the spacers in :cry:

Dave

Post by **robbie** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:24 pm

KIWI: yours makes a grinding sound also?

Post by **robbie** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:24 pm

KIWI: yours makes a grinding sound also?

Post by **robbie** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:25 pm

KIWI: yours makes a grinding sound also?

Post by **Cossie** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:38 pm

robbie wrote:KIWI: yours makes a grinding sound also?

you can say that again!!

Post by **viperguy** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:45 pm

check out my members thread.. vipers mav shorty. i have 5 inch suspension under mine which is auto, and just fitted a 2 inch body lift..still using standard shaft. vibes are due to tailshaft angles after lifting. u need to get ur pinnion angles right to eliminate vibes. i used cheezy longer bomb proof trailing arms, rotates the pinnion down to suit the angle of the output from the gearbox. works a treat. there are products to eliminate vibes. if i was doin my lift again id use the lifted engine mounts and longer arms that cheezy sells..wont need x member packers that way.

i have no vibes in mine in driving, had the lift for 12 months now

Post by **Screwy** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:53 pm

the Grinding noise is due to angles.

Ur slide joint in the middle of your shaft is vibrating large enough at high speed to do it. You will find it only grinds like that at higher speeds.

At lower speeds it ust vibrates like normal.

Also,

LWB and SWB do it,
But the SWB does it more easily under a smaller lift, as the driveshaft is shorter and the angle gets greater very quickly in SWB.

Post by **robbie** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:15 pm

viperguy wrote:check out my members thread.. vipers mav shorty. i have 5 inch suspension under mine which is auto, and just fitted a 2 inch body lift..still using standard shaft. vibes are due to tailshaft angles after lifting. u need to get ur pinnion angles right to eliminate vibes. i used cheezy longer bomb proof trailing arms, rotates the pinnion down to suit the angle of the output from the gearbox. works a treat. there are products to eliminate vibes. if i was doin my lift again id use the lifted engine mounts and longer arms that cheezy sells..wont need x member packers that way.

i have no vibes in mine in driving, had the lift for 12 months now

how much $ we talking here?

also, can the vibes / grinding cause any damage to anything if I leave it for 2 weeks?

Post by **bogged** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:27 pm

robbie wrote:how much $ we talking here?

lots more than u wanna spend..

Post by **robbie** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:30 pm

bogged wrote:
robbie wrote:how much $ we talking here?

lots more than u wanna spend..

you waste so many posts with shit like this..

Post by **bogged** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:00 pm

robbie wrote:you waste so many posts with shit like this..

you like me are on a tight budget... buying things one at a time... what he is sayin isnt cheap.

Post by **bilby** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:03 am

both - but not mine

mine neither its had 2'' springs put in and it drives better :lol:

wouldnt have something to do with the stiffness of the springs would it ????

Post by **KIWI** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:41 am

I too am on a very tight budget with my vehicle :cry:

, and was rather suprised that I am still having the vibration problems after using the gearbox packers, and this is only a 2" lift.
Probably wouldnt be so bad if we had the aftermarket goodies readily available like you do over there, but in saying that, I dont think the missus would like a 2nd mortgage taken out on the house to pay for all my new cheezy gear :lol:

Dave[/quote]

Post by **Beastmavster** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:02 am

And people say vitaras are hard to lift

:finger:

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