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yj spring kits and that junk

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yj spring kits and that junk

Post by -Mick- »

Been thinking of what suspension I want to run cause everyone knows how much stock sucks :D Thought about coil kits for primo bling, RUF and all the usuals around here. All of which are good options :)

But with the number of people being defected and seeing so many derelict zooks without rego etc makes me a bit anxious about doing permanent modifications. Wouldn't be an issue if I lived in a different state (cept WA :lol: )

So I've been looking at bolt on options which are easily removed if (when :?) I'm asked to go for inspection :roll: The best of which I think would be a bolt on YJ kit like the RRO one.

http://www.rocky-road.com/yjkit.html

A couple of questions though. Is this the only bolt on one round :?: As far as I can see the others are weld on

Also I know yj's are rare here but hilux fronts are the same physical size :) Solves one problem. However the hilux have an offset centre which would put the axle in a different place to a centred spring. Does anyone know which way it is offset or roughly how different the axle location would be :?:

Any help much appreciated :D
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Post by bazooked »

hey mick i got the rro bolt on kit, with the ott steering, and yj springs,by the time i bought all the gear and second hand springs from the states, plus freight, yadda yadda yadda, all the labour i did myself, including all the neseccary diff mods for caster, i presume ur goin spring over otherwise dont waste ur time...all in all if overkill were doin there kit when this was happenin i wouldnt of bought it but gone coils would of even been cheaper my a margain, dont get me wrong this kit works great but for dollar value u cant go past the coil kit.also u can get yj springs here , cause arb sell them to the states and they r made here will run into approx the $700 mark. have fun deciding.. :finger:
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Post by -Mick- »

Thanks Bazooked :) I won't be importing springs or steering just bracketry if I do it :) That'll keep cost down. It's $425 US (550 AUSish) + freight for the front and rear systems which is far shy of coils ;) Could still fab it cheaper locally probably but the time saved and bolt on/off ability makes it worthwhile to me :)

Why do you say it's a waste in SUA :?: Seems ok to me. I'm defininetly NOT going SOA :?

Wouldn't be getting new yj springs either. Why spend $700 when hilux fronts are give aways ;) I would only want standard height springs too cause even they give a small lift.
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Post by redzook »

as far as i know hilux front springs arnt offset

trail tough do a bolt on kit it uses missing link upfront though

i dont think u would be able to get very big tires at all on yjs sua
they tuck up in the the wheel arch alot

there are a few pics on the net somwhere of the tt kit on a sua rig
if i rember correct he was runnin 31's and they were hitting on the headlight bucket pretty bad

i run the tt rear yj kit wich would have been revealed in a search
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Re: yj spring kits and that junk

Post by Damo »

-Mick- wrote:Blah blah blah


Get your engine sorted first, jackass :finger:
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Post by bazooked »

hey mick when i bought the kit i think the aussie dollar was piss poor and i was in a hurry.
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Post by -Mick- »

yeah the hilux is a centered pin I measured one last night :? I'd been told otherwise :roll:

I don't want to run any bigger than 31 because it's a road going piece of crap :lol: Your kit didn't come up in a search either redzook :finger: Thanks for the input though, are you pretty happy with it :?:

Damo thanks for nuthin as usual :finger:
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Post by -Mick- »

bumping this back up :D

Pretty sure I'll import the front kit bolt on from rro now. Seems like the rear won't fit a lwb but its so farkin simple I'll just make that anyway :)

Will I need steering modifications with yj/ lux fronts in front :?:

Or driveshaft alterations/ spacers :?:
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Post by nicbeer »

U still going SUA? Whats the main difference between the SWB and the LWB.

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Post by -Mick- »

nicbeer wrote:U still going SUA? Whats the main difference between the SWB and the LWB.

cheers
yeah mate sua.. soa is a no no here :roll: I'll deal with the headlight bucket rub when I get there :lol:

The lwb has way different rear hangers it seems. My rear shackle andle is nearly vertical now with stock springs so I'll move the fixed mount forward 2-3", add a 1" longer shackle and let the spring push it out the other 1-2" so the angle is good.

Simple and basically free :D
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Post by nicbeer »

Ah cool. Thats the way i have done my front springs to fit the RUF.

I would reckon a drop pitman would be needed at least for the flex.

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Post by toysuzi »

hey -mick-
hows it going

for eazy fitment & the benefit of being able to remove the kit id say go a skyjacker yj kit $100.00 us for each end

it can be removed for resale of kit or vehicle
if needed

ull just need to chase down your own yj springs
and your own shock & brake lines -custom lenght tail shafts etc
witch would be needed for any spring conversion of choice

got a couple of pics for you
1st is skyjacker kit
2nd two of yj kitted zooks flexin

hope that helps
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Post by redzook »

i think it is sky manafacturing (SP?)

not skyjacker

and that second zuk must have huge missing links
or it has 1/4 eleptic in the rear

edit : just had a closer look it is leaf springs with a huge DROP ARM
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Post by -Mick- »

daryl wrote:hey -mick-
hows it going

for eazy fitment & the benefit of being able to remove the kit id say go a skyjacker yj kit $100.00 us for each end
daryl thanks mate yeah I was just lookin at that. Maybe a better option. There's a front kit coming too just waiting to hear how much :cool:
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Post by -Mick- »

so what steering mods will I need :?:

And shaft mods.... longer slip yokes or something :?:
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Post by toysuzi »

sorry
yep its sky-manufacturing
heres a link from pirate furum

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309089

sky-man also do steering parts
trail ready do a good steering hub arm cheep (check pic)

steering = drop pitman arm & cross over or high steer kit

tail shafts = yes longer slip joints
maybe use hilux units or custom unit

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Post by redzook »

-Mick- wrote:so what steering mods will I need :?:

And shaft mods.... longer slip yokes or something :?:
u should only need a spacer (because the diff will be moved forward) u wont need a longer slip joint

steering? u r probaly goin to have to change it some how

u could either move your steering box forward or easy way but more $$ high steer ( just draglink moved up and tierod in stock spot)
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Post by -Mick- »

redzook wrote:
-Mick- wrote:so what steering mods will I need :?:

And shaft mods.... longer slip yokes or something :?:
u should only need a spacer (because the diff will be moved forward) u wont need a longer slip joint

steering? u r probaly goin to have to change it some how

u could either move your steering box forward or easy way but more $$ high steer ( just draglink moved up and tierod in stock spot)
cheers redzook :D will have to see how legal it all is..... the steering i mean
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Post by Geoffrey Dick »

got it coming from the states from rocky-road, all ready have a set of yj leafs in my shed. not sure but i think i will need to do some work on the drive shafts to make it work properly

i will keep you informed
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Post by -Mick- »

Geoffrey Dick wrote:got it coming from the states from rocky-road, all ready have a set of yj leafs in my shed. not sure but i think i will need to do some work on the drive shafts to make it work properly

i will keep you informed
please do :D

hilux front springs are the same size if you ever need spares.... cheaper than yj's ;)
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-Mick- wrote:
Geoffrey Dick wrote:got it coming from the states from rocky-road, all ready have a set of yj leafs in my shed. not sure but i think i will need to do some work on the drive shafts to make it work properly

i will keep you informed
please do :D

hilux front springs are the same size if you ever need spares.... cheaper than yj's ;)
thicker leafs tho?
they also come flat from the factory
so i dont thikn use SUA people will get much lift

narrow track diahatsu feroza are the leafs u want
but they have an offest pin wich is a good thing if you wana push out your wheelbase :twisted:

also what are u doing for bushes in the toy springs? as i think they need like a 19mm bolt?

where yjs are smaller
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Post by dtzook »

also what are u doing for bushes in the toy springs? as i think they need like a 19mm bolt?[quote]

There 18mm ID.
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Post by redzook »

dtzook wrote:
redzook wrote:also what are u doing for bushes in the toy springs? as i think they need like a 19mm bolt?
There 18mm ID.
i knew they were big just couldnt rember from when i brought them for the front of my truck
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Post by -Mick- »

mmm ok redzook I see your point. Feroza springs would be good but I don't really want to extend my wb :? lwb are 93 factory and I'm only on 31's :roll:
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Post by redzook »

-Mick- wrote:mmm ok redzook I see your point. Feroza springs would be good but I don't really want to extend my wb :? lwb are 93 factory and I'm only on 31's :roll:
i know mine was a lwb to start with :twisted: no it just another 10.5 inches longer :lol:
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redzook wrote:
-Mick- wrote:mmm ok redzook I see your point. Feroza springs would be good but I don't really want to extend my wb :? lwb are 93 factory and I'm only on 31's :roll:
i know mine was a lwb to start with :twisted: no it just another 10.5 inches longer :lol:
you don't have 31's though :twisted:
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Re: sky kit

Post by MaineZuke »

daryl wrote:sorry
yep its sky-manufacturing
heres a link from pirate furum

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309089

sky-man also do steering parts
trail ready do a good steering hub arm cheep (check pic)

steering = drop pitman arm & cross over or high steer kit

tail shafts = yes longer slip joints
maybe use hilux units or custom unit

daryl
who makes those arms? All I see at trailready are bumpers and wheels
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