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auto hub problems

Tech talk for GMH/Isuzu and Great Wall owners

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auto hub problems

Post by frontyMatt »

Hi eveyone,

I own a 97 Frontera sport, and in recent times i have been having troubles with my auto hubs.
There are serious micanical noises coming from the front end. Once the auto hubs have locked in they continue to make loud bangs every few feet, more noticible in 1st and 2nd low range.
Are the hubs stufed?

If this is the case can i fit manual locking hubs from MU or Rodeo to my Frontera Sport?. I

any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

thanks, Matt
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Post by Utemad »

The first thing I would be doing is finding out how to grease them.

As for fitting manual hubs I can't see why it wouldn't be a fairly straight forward job.
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Post by Westoztroopa »

Welcome FrontyMatt. :)

Check out the thread from the FAQ section.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=26297

All Isuzu manual hubs are apparently interchangable across model. You may want to think about changing over to the manuals either way. It shouldnt be too expensive to pick up a set of Aisins from the wreckers.

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Post by Yarno »

I'd also be checking the oil in the front diff, to see if there are metal peices in there.

Mine made the same noise and it ended up being the spider gears in the diff.... if that's what happened do what I did and install a locker.
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Post by frontyMatt »

thak for the replys guys!! :lol:

I dont think it is the diff, just had it rebuilt 3000ks ago. but i gues it wont hurt to drop the oil and have a look.

I will ring around a few wreckers about manual locking hubs.

I would prefer manual hubs anyway, and if they fix the prob well i will be happy!

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Post by FRN-71E »

frontymatt.. i have a 95 frontera sports with auto's and they do make a heap of bangs but i am trying to get maunals , becuase every time you go in to reverse off road even if you are in 4wd they will unlock.. i get stuck on the beach every time.. The front hubs are the same as the TF rodeo as i have been told... Post some pics of your beast me wanna see!!!!
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Post by frontyMatt »

Hey frontie,
yeh sometimes it feels like the hubs silp and then re engage causing some nocks and bangs, always done it abit , but has become worse over time.
The other week at Stockton it was doing it every three meters, became almost un driveable!

TF rodeo you say, ill look in to it.

Got some pics 4 you.
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some more..
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few more...
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Stockton
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Post by FRN-71E »

Mate. thats one nice truck... i only live 30min from Stocko.. we will have to go for a bash one time... .. :D :D :D
..Nice pics.... heres some of the frontie!!
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Post by 4x4roza »

the knock in your hubs is a common problem in these cars the is a circlips inside the hubs that hold the cv's in i have come across this coming loose causing a knock when the hubs are locked.... the engagement of the hubs is control by a vacumm solenoid on the pass side on the fire wall make sure this is all ok the actuator is mounted on the pass side of the diff housing too.
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Post by frontyMatt »

thanks 4x4roza, will check that out :D
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Post by dansTOYOwagon »

some more shots of your car from Watagans Matt :)

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Post by frontyMatt »

Thanks Dan, haven't seen thoes pic befor :)
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Post by FRN-71E »

Mate.. what mods you got done to the frontera...????
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Post by FRN-71E »

Mate.. what mods you got done to the frontera...????
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Post by frontyMatt »

it has;

,31''muds
,Old Man Emu suspention
,GME uhf
,duel bateries

....and soon to come manual hubs, picked up a pair from the wreckers today, will let you know how it goes fiting them.
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Post by Yarno »

Just thought I'd throw a pic in or two
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Post by FRN-71E »

mate.. we all your MU is crazy.....

I wouldn't mind seeing in really off road....

FrontyMatt....nicemods.. How did you do the dual battiers i would like to do the same...
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Post by Westoztroopa »

Have you got drive to that front diff now Yarn?
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Post by Yarno »

no................... been a little slow at the moment, but I'll get back into it soon.
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Post by frontyMatt »

Yarn, thats some awsome flex you've got happening.....got me thinking a SAS :shock:

frontie, sorry, but i cant say i know much about eletrics, i can tell you i run a deep cycle 100amp hour battery mounted behind the drivers seat in a battery box. and an isolator to control it.....and thats about as far as i can go :oops:

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Post by frontyMatt »

...Well the manual hubs are instaled and the problem fixed :D

Hubs fited fine, no worries at all.

Thanks guys for the advice,
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Post by FRN-71E »

Hey dude.. where can i get a set of 2inch or 2.5inch lifted coils...
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Post by frontyMatt »

Your best bet for a lift is to get custom coils,

Most aftermarket coils made for the car only get a lift from the increase spring rate over standard coils.
I bought Carrols coils which gave me 30mm lift,
now have OMEs which gave 40mm over standed hight.

When you compare the standard coils to the aftermaket ones they both measure the same hight ,Its only when they have the load of the car on them do the aftermaket ones give lift.

so i would recomend if you want a noticable increase get custom made ones.
when i looked in to this i was going to get 'Dobbison' ( i think that how you say it???) custom made coils. Around 2.5 inch over standard hight. and mathch them to long travel ProComp shocks. and then sway bar disconectors.
speek to a custom 4WD specialist about it ....they should be able to help out.
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Post by FRN-71E »

Yer, i all ready got 35mm lift from a set of King Springs heavy duty and yer i noticed that they were the same high..... When i was looking in to coils all i could get around NEwcastle was the King's for $120 a set and customs around $350 so you can see why i get the king's...and i got a set of Cross Country 41mm bore foam cell 2inch long travel shocks.. and i will be making a quick discon front sway bar in my holis and taking the rear one out... thanks for the extra info....

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