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How the .... do I get this apart.

Post by Paul »

Without a press, is it possible to get the (front) disk off of a Lux solid axle hub?

I've seen the IFS hubs where the wheel studs are part of hub, but with the solid axle hub the studs seem to be mounted into disk and poke through the hub. I've tried to pound the hub from the disk but to no avail.

Any help would be appreciated.

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You can see in the bottom of one picture how the piece of timber I was hammering against crushed rather that moving the hub.
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Post by Brad »

It has been a while but when I did mine a few years back I took the two bolts out and drifted the wheel studs out and it all came apart. Yours look the same as what mine did.
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Post by hypo »

not sure mate but i doin the ifs hub swap on mine on monday so ill b able 2 tell u then :D :D
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Post by NICK »

yeah it is, should come apart easy.
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Post by Paul »

Done.

You were right Brad. Undo the two bolts and press out the studs. Thanks.

Hypo, I'm about 2 days ahead of you. I ended up using my vehicle jack inside an old metal frame the Mrs uses as a pot plant potting table and pressed out each stud. Once they were out the hub and the disk came apart by hand.

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Here's some pic's, unfortunately I forgot to do one of the IFS hub, spacer and disk.
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Post by hypo »

ok sweet know i know how 2 do it thanx Paul. where did u get ya spacers from ?
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Post by Paul »

Hypo, I got my spacers from Chaos and the ISF hubs out of Franks Parts Plus in Canberra (I know one of the guys, so they give me half-reasonable prices).

Looking at it now that it’s all apart, it appears that the studs actually engage into the hub and just pass through the disk, thus the problems I was having trying to get the two apart.

Sitting down with the verniers, it looks like you end up with just over 35mm per side.

Good luck on Monday,

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Post by 2car »

Paul wrote:I know one of the guys, so they give me half-reasonable prices).



But not reasonable right? They quoted me $950 for 60 series disk brake coversion parts. I eventually got them from a guy in Waniassa for $150. The best thing I have found at Franks was reverse.
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Post by NICK »

Paul wrote:Sitting down with the verniers, it looks like you end up with just over 35mm per side.
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yeah thats about right, i think they are 34.5mm as that is the differance in the offset from the back of the disc.


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Post by Dozoor »

While your there guys whats the Bearing dimensions for these ?
and the od and id where the axle passes through the stub - length . please ? :D
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Post by Sixty »

Might be a weird question, but would the IFS hubs fit the frt &/or rear of a 60?
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Post by hypo »

Paul,
yeah i got a set from Chaos also they look sweet, i have fitted the spacers 2 the ifs hubs already i just got flush out and repack the bearings and remove the solid axle disk and fit it 2 the spacer and bolt her all back 2gether..

Stepho,
i dont think so mate cos i pretty sure that a cruiser will have bigger hub but maybe the bearings can b changed 2 make it work i duinno
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Post by Sixty »

I know that a couple of years ago I rebuilt a mates 86/87 hilux frt end and we used the same size brgs as is my 60. Did the sizes change with the IFS frt end?
If they are the same size etc it mite be a cheaper option for me to gain more axle width...
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Post by hypo »

ok than if the bearings r the same size then i guess it possible but how r u gunna space the drum back 2 where it needs 2 go or will u do a disk brake conversion as well ??
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Post by Sixty »

I'd go disc on the rear as well, I chew too many shoes out with mud and sand.
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Post by cplux »

Dozoor wrote:While your there guys whats the Bearing dimensions for these ?
and the od and id where the axle passes through the stub - length . please ? :D


Have a few sets of bearings floating around and my old solid axle hubs if this will help with measurements larry. drop round if you can remember where i live and have a looksee.
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Post by bj on roids »

Stepho wrote:Might be a weird question, but would the IFS hubs fit the frt &/or rear of a 60?


front = fine

rear = needs an additional spacer. all bearings and parts interchange.
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Post by bj on roids »

Stepho wrote:I'd go disc on the rear as well, I chew too many shoes out with mud and sand.


You dont need to space the whole rear just the outer drum, and it would work.

Best to get some steel wheels and change the offset, it would be far cheaper and easier. but if you are determined it is expensive, but easy.

Harass me enough I might even put up some pics and show you.
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Post by FIGJAM »

Paul wrote:Done.

You were right Brad. Undo the two bolts and press out the studs. Thanks.

Hypo, I'm about 2 days ahead of you. I ended up using my vehicle jack inside an old metal frame the Mrs uses as a pot plant potting table and pressed out each stud. Once they were out the hub and the disk came apart by hand.

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Here's some pic's, unfortunately I forgot to do one of the IFS hub, spacer and disk.
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Post by Dozoor »

Thanks Cp I'll give you a buzz when i get the time ! :D
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Post by Sixty »

bj on roids wrote:Best to get some steel wheels and change the offset, it would be far cheaper and easier. but if you are determined it is expensive, but easy.


BJ, any ideas how much offset rims would cost and where I could source them? I presume they'll have to be specially made? I'm currently running 16x8's with Cruiser offset, I only want bout nother 1" either side(atmost)

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Post by hypo »

well im finished doing the ifs hub conversion on mine thanx fark...... everything went sweet as
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Post by bj on roids »

Stepho wrote:
bj on roids wrote:Best to get some steel wheels and change the offset, it would be far cheaper and easier. but if you are determined it is expensive, but easy.


BJ, any ideas how much offset rims would cost and where I could source them? I presume they'll have to be specially made? I'm currently running 16x8's with Cruiser offset, I only want bout nother 1" either side(atmost)

Al

ps -pics would be nice.


any race shop, engineering shop, fab shop, can do custome wheels, another 1" per side is easy enough they cut the centre out and move it back a little, arou nd $70 to $90 per wheel,
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Post by Sixty »

Everybody can stop worrying now!
I've found a tyre joint that will actually talk sense and help me, the rims I've got are actually 80 series rims not 75 series.(which are 15mm further offset). Looks like I'll just have to buy new rims. Mmmm, now how to explain this to she who must be obeyed...............
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Post by Sixty »

Thanks for the info BJ, the tiny 15x7's on the project will be tossed &, if I can find a shop up here, the modified 16x8's will find a new home. :D 8) :D
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