Lifting my series 3.... finally

Post by **bundyboy** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 9:50 am

hey guys & girls,
i want to make some room for 33's under my series 3 SWB, i have parabolics so spring mods are limited, how can i lift this bastard without too much trouble? Anyone tried this?

Bodylift looks difficult... very! How long can i make my shackles before they overturn?

Pls Help.... Any info on fitting 33's to a series rover would be great! Especially offsets... etc.

Post by **Adam** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 11:20 am

why lift, when you can trim? hehe this is my truck on Q78 super swampers with just 2 leaf rocky mountain parabolics all the way around. the Q78s are 36x11, btw. there are stock series axles under there and the wheels are stock series 15s that i put on backwards- dont do this! they dont fit and i put them on to see what it would look like only.

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 11:23 am

You can fit 33's without any lifting, but you will probably need to trim the outer guards - i.e. can install defender wheelarch flares or similar.

I have 33's (285/75/16's) on my IIA without any guard cutting, but it has an extra 1.5" of suspension lift over yours (std military). I have the tyres fitted to Disco rims that have been offset 30mm further out.

You can fit military shackles on the rear, which will only give 0.75" of lift because you don't have extended front spring hangers. Note that this is probably illegal under QLD law. You cannot really lift the front by the same method as this will alter the diff pinion angle and you will probably have issues with the front prop/unis.

Post by **bundyboy** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 1:59 pm

I have a set of the military shackles so i will probably do that and get a set of defender flares, what will it be like on full lock? Inner guards kapow? how far outside the arches are these going to sit without defender flares?

Post by **bundyboy** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:00 pm

nice flex adam! i am very impressed indeed.

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:29 pm

With disco rims with 30mm extra offset and 285/75's my tyres are just within the guards. If the pic attaches properly...

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:32 pm

As you can see in this one the rears only just fit within the std guards. with the 30mm offset the tyres don't rub anything. When I had 235/85's on std disco rims (see avatar) both front and back would rub the inner guards on full articulation. It doesn't do any damage - just makes them shiny.

Post by **bj on roids** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:52 pm

Adam wrote:why lift, when you can trim? hehe this is my truck on Q78 super swampers with just 2 leaf rocky mountain parabolics all the way around. the Q78s are 36x11, btw. there are stock series axles under there and the wheels are stock series 15s that i put on backwards- dont do this! they dont fit and i put them on to see what it would look like only.

that cutting sure looks familiar, you didnt copy off anyone at all did you? :lol:

Post by **Adam** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:58 pm

??? i dont know what youre talking about :wink:

bj on roids wrote:
Adam wrote:why lift, when you can trim? hehe this is my truck on Q78 super swampers with just 2 leaf rocky mountain parabolics all the way around. the Q78s are 36x11, btw. there are stock series axles under there and the wheels are stock series 15s that i put on backwards- dont do this! they dont fit and i put them on to see what it would look like only.

that cutting sure looks familiar, you didnt copy off anyone at all did you?

Post by **bj on roids** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 3:23 pm

Adam wrote:??? i dont know what youre talking about :wink:

bj on roids wrote:
Adam wrote:why lift, when you can trim? hehe this is my truck on Q78 super swampers with just 2 leaf rocky mountain parabolics all the way around. the Q78s are 36x11, btw. there are stock series axles under there and the wheels are stock series 15s that i put on backwards- dont do this! they dont fit and i put them on to see what it would look like only.

that cutting sure looks familiar, you didnt copy off anyone at all did you?

thought so

Post by **bundyboy** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 5:22 pm

excellent so if i just go ask for early discovery rims they will have that 30mm extra offset and still have the original 5 on 6.5 bolt pattern?

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 5:32 pm

Sorry didn't make myself clear.

The pics I posted are of S1 Disco stell rims (bolt straight to every LR pre the SII Disco and The last 2 RR models - but to bolt to a SI/II/IIA you need larger wheel nuts).

HOWEVER - my disco rims have had the offset increased by 30mm (EXTRA OVER STD) which you would need to get an engineering shop to do.

Also - good luck trying to find a set of disco rims now.

And the IIA in the pic has 1.5" extra suspension height over a std series and cut out front guards (all factory military stuff).

So at the very least you will have to cut your front guards.

Post by **bundyboy** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:55 pm

i was laughing for a while there, oh well. How much did the engineering work cost? Neat Job? Anyone know of a good place in Brissie? Also just checking... when u say u need bigger wheel nuts u mean just mean bigger nuts no drilling of bigger holes involved?

Thanks Joel

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:43 am

I got quoted about $80 a rim by Race Engineering to get them modified (so expensive because you have to spin the centres, weld up the old valve stem hole and redrill another one).

I ended up finding a guy on the northside who did them for about $50 a rim. He did a good job - they balanced up better than the originals. PM me if you want his details - don't have them with me at the moment.

From SIII on, landrover used larger (diameter) wheel studs (and larger nuts). Assuming you have a IIA, your options are:

(1) Buy a set of SIII hubs complete with studs and fit them (wheel bearings are the same size (IIA/III) if you don't buy stage1 v8 hubs)

(2) Buy some 'special' wheel nuts from a LR place (about $3 a nut but hard to find) which are made to fit small diameter (IIA) studs, but the outer nut size and bevel is the same as on a III.

Hope that makes sense. I got a set of the special nuts a long time ago, but later changed to SIII hubs all round because I fitted a stage 1 v8 front axle. I sold the nuts to a mate but still have a few lying around.

Post by **derangedrover** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 10:00 am

Triumph Rover Spares have heaps of disco rims @ $90 ea or any other rover wrecker.
Rangie Spares will do you a modified offset and powder coated disco rim for $220 ish I think.

OR

you could buy my modified disco rims

3.25" backspace, 50% 235/85/16 RT01 muds X5 $800.

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Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:09 am

$90 OUCH - I didn't pay more than $40 each for any of mine (I have 15 - and most of them I got free). but I suppose they are getting rarer now.

Post by **derangedrover** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 12:43 pm

ISUZUROVER
Wanna offload 5 of those disco rims?
I'll give you $150 for 5 centres if your interested, dont want the outers.

Cheers
Daryl

Post by **bundyboy** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:34 am

cool i might go check out some wreckers, sorry darryl i am a cheap arse and dont want to spend that much on rubber. Thanks anyway.

Post by **v8grunt** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:21 pm

try 315/75r16 "thats 35" x 13" on 16x10 alloy. 110 flares and bit of cutting they fit. 33 fit on series with a little cutting of the guards. I also have my old beadlocks for sale 15 x 8.5 at $200 each.
glen

Post by **bundyboy** » Sat Apr 19, 2003 12:49 pm

Any of those 15 you got 15x 8 sunnies? Interested in getting rid of them?

(I have 15 - and most of them I got free).

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Wed Apr 23, 2003 3:07 pm

derangedrover wrote:ISUZUROVER
Wanna offload 5 of those disco rims?
I'll give you $150 for 5 centres if your interested, dont want the outers.

Cheers
Daryl

Sorry Daryl, I want/need all of them.

sorry seriesboy they are all 16x7 disco rims.

Tue May 06, 2003 7:43 pm

a body lift can be done on a landy just need to make new brakerts any one wanting to buy a ser 3 ute

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