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gearing my zook

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gearing my zook

Post by -Mick- »

finally got the pile of crap back in action thanks to Mud4b with a 1.3 efi conversion :D

Downside is that now I found out how overgeared it is :shock: Its running 3.9 centers (wt diffs), S3 rockhoppers and "31" inch x terrains. I don't have a tacho but it's flat out like a biscuit at 100k's :roll:

The prob is worse because the xterrains measure 30" on a good day :x 29.5 on a bad one :?

Any ideas how to get it liveable :?: I was thinking an upgrade to a genuine 31 along with a swap to 3.7 wt centers (already got a front). But how much difference do you reckon this'll make... like can I then do 110 @ around 4000? can't go bigger than a 31 around here either.... 31's get enough negative attention :roll:
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Post by nicbeer »

I think if you do both the real 31's and centres that will make a difference. Doing only the centres i don't think will make much of a differnce.

we need the gear gurus here.

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Post by ZOOK60 »

remember just because your speedo reeds 100 dosnt mean you doing it
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Post by nicbeer »

true. Mine is doing 115km at 100 mark. revin bout 4000rpm with 3.9s and 31's on 1ltr case.

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nicbeer wrote:true. Mine is doing 115km at 100 mark. revin bout 4000rpm with 3.9s and 31's on 1ltr case.

nic


at 100 on my speedo, I am doing just over 90....
1.3 into 1.0 t-case and 4:9 LJ diff r&p on 31" measured mongrels.
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Post by -Mick- »

jake lawson wrote:remember just because your speedo reeds 100 dosnt mean you doing it


duh :lol: my brother was drivin in front of me doin 100 (in a 110) and I was flat out keepin up :roll:

my speedo reads 85-90 at that speed
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Post by roc box »

could you hybrid standard +s3 gearing eg leave low s3 put standard input gear back in for high :?:
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roc box wrote:could you hybrid standard +s3 gearing eg leave low s3 put standard input gear back in for high :?:


there is a one piece double gear bit involved, so I doubt it, without major work?
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Post by munga »

incredibly selfless of me, but i am willing to give you a 1lt tfre case in return for your problematic s3 rockhoppers.
im only doing this to help you out.

help me...to help you.

HELP MEEEE TO HELP YOUUUU

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Post by -Mick- »

mmmmmmmmmmmmm no :D Anymore advice :?:

By my calculations its pulling about 4700 at 110km now :?

3.7's and 31's should knock it back to about 4100 :? 1.3 efi should be happy there I'd imagine.

What muddies etc (road goer) measure a genuine 31 :?: would like to keep the width down too. Will even go a 32 if need be :roll:
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Post by flyinwall »

go the 32x10.5x15 monoform muds (the ones that look like simex's)
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Post by -Mick- »

flyinwall wrote:go the 32x10.5x15 monoform muds (the ones that look like simex's)


if you mean mongrels no way..... daily duties would fark em :?

That's the only 32 10.5 I see listed on their site
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Post by Badooky »

go the mongrels
i run 32x10.5x15s on my daily driver and they are great
measure about 31.5 on 8" rim.
with 1.6 efi, s1 gears and 4.1 diffs impulling about 3600 at 110 in 5th
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Post by flyinwall »

they're the ones i was thinkin about i am getting a set for my zook when i get it finnished
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Post by -Mick- »

flyinwall wrote:they're the ones i was thinkin about i am getting a set for my zook when i get it finnished


I'll have to wait for your opinions on them as a daily thing then :cool: I would imagine they'd sound like a light aircraft and handle like roller skates in the wet :lol:
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Post by flyinwall »

i wont be finnished my zook till near the end of the year and i have just sprayed a good thick coating of blackjack/sound deadner all over the floor in preparation for any unwanted noise (and just to be sure i'm going to give it another good thick coating when this one dries out more) but my zook will not be my daily driver thats what my hilux surf is for!

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Post by roc box »

christover1 wrote:
roc box wrote:could you hybrid standard +s3 gearing eg leave low s3 put standard input gear back in for high :?:


there is a one piece double gear bit involved, so I doubt it, without major work?
christover

yeh i know that mate but was thinkin maybe the input shaft or are they geared same a standard :?: never really counted teeth when i changed mine
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Post by -Mick- »

I could also go 16" inch rims giving me choices of taller and narrower tyres :idea:

eg I could easily get a 265/ 75 then which is a 31.9" tall 10.5 " wide tyre. That'd fix my gearing by itself :idea: Cheaper than buying a wt center too by the time I sell off my x terrains + sunraysias :idea:

I seached and found new 16" sunraysias would be the go there
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Post by roc box »

could be a simple solution
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Post by christover1 »

I run Mongrels as a daily driver....handling in dry is great, and in the wet is much better than I expected. Being built on a radials they have many road holding advantages.

Can't comment on noise due to poor hearing, but I can feel a slight rumble when going slow, and at speed rest of zook rattles and makes more noise than tyres ever could :)

Time will tell how long they last, but so far so good. Have done most of summer, lots of trips to the hills on tarmac, and quite a few extreme 4wd trips..I'm happy, but would recommend new tyres if you can afford them.

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Post by stephen »

I used to run 3.7 centres with s3 and 31's for the road and the gearing was fine at 100-110 km/h was around 3600 3700rpm at 110km/h
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Post by stephen »

There are some good choices for 16" rims I run 255/85 r16's on modified GV rims which are about 33.4x9.5" wide, you could try a 235/85 r16 its 32x9" wide, I have a friend running this in MTR's
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Post by -Mick- »

stephen wrote:There are some good choices for 16" rims I run 255/85 r16's on modified GV rims which are about 33.4x9.5" wide, you could try a 235/85 r16 its 32x9" wide, I have a friend running this in MTR's


235/85 sounds great stephen :) When you say modified gv rims is that just for offset :?: or the center hole :?:

I still reckon speedy wheels will be the go......... but you never know
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