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Seems my insurance will be the same with or witout forced induction therefore I will have it if its feasible But I know little about it... just the basic principles.
The engine is a 1.3 efi and I'd like to run mild boost around 5-7 pounds. Should haul like that for a little zook
It has S3 atm so gearing isn't an issue. Should I turbo or s/c Also ideas on the parts required for each, what suits like blower sizes, and rough costs would be great.
Finally do we think the std ecu will cope with a mild application like that Thanks all..........
i feel that a supercharger wil b better, as even at idle it is boosting, not like a turbo that comes in later in the rev range, therefore a super charger is more suited 2 crawling coz as u aplly power u get boost instead of waiting 4 it..
thats my opinion anyways, as i plan 2 supercharge my new rig 4 this purpose
ok sounds good acyually. When does it peak and die off though Cause I'd really like it for the highway as well.
The idea is to set up a camper trailer for all my (more the gf's ) junk so it'd be good if the blower was still boosting right through to about 5000rpm.
Got gearing (and 30's ) so not too worried about low down boost. Even if it didn't come in till 2000rpm as long as it was smooth
I have a turbo on the 1.3 I find with the injection alone more than enough tourqe with the 1.3 and then the turbo is great on road, and mud etc. I would go either way my choice was on cost it was less expensive for me to do the turbo and we could still run the air conditioning. We did have a suby charger origionaly to use but never used it.
Go the turbo. It works well on mine!! But i am the king of rice!
But you will need to replace the ECU. Install was pretty easy. Makes almost 100kw at the wheels with 7psi boost and it performs very well off road. Still havent finished tuning it after having it in for over a year. Have had no problems at all with reliability etc just keeps on going!
stephen wrote:I have a turbo on the 1.3 I find with the injection alone more than enough tourqe with the 1.3 and then the turbo is great on road, and mud etc. I would go either way my choice was on cost it was less expensive for me to do the turbo and we could still run the air conditioning. We did have a suby charger origionaly to use but never used it.
stephen is this with std ecu sounds like a good setup. How much to set yours up and where did you get manifolds etc done
benjamin78au wrote:how does the subaru charger differ from the ones off a 4age?IT DOES NOT HAVE A CLUTCH DRIVE..SLIGHTLY SMALLER
as these can be found 2nd hand for as little as $300 YES
Easy enought to make brackets, to mount it, but it is the pipe work that concerns me. on what goes where, and if a intercooler is required. PIPEWORK IS EASY..
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stephen is this with std ecu sounds like a good setup. How much to set yours up and where did you get manifolds etc done
I made up the mainfold with 6mm angle and steam bends, the head flange I had laser cut but If I was unable to get that done at the time I would have just cut it of the extractors. and the exaust side I did on a mill. I use an old haltech computer. But I think the factory computer might be up to the job with low pressure. I only run 6psi more than enough.
computer $200
efi $100
fuel pump had already
turbo $100
intercooler $40
this was the only money spent the rest was done for no cost to me.
I think though overall a supercharger can be installed cheaper and easier especially the subaru charger. couple brackets boost lines and fab up a pulley. If not for A/C. I would recomend s/c there are probably more benefit's for supercharging. Saying that though the Turbo is great
stephen is this with std ecu sounds like a good setup. How much to set yours up and where did you get manifolds etc done
I made up the mainfold with 6mm angle and steam bends, the head flange I had laser cut but If I was unable to get that done at the time I would have just cut it of the extractors. and the exaust side I did on a mill. I use an old haltech computer. But I think the factory computer might be up to the job with low pressure. I only run 6psi more than enough.
computer $200 efi $100 fuel pump had already turbo $100 intercooler $40 this was the only money spent the rest was done for no cost to me.
I think though overall a supercharger can be installed cheaper and easier especially the subaru charger. couple brackets boost lines and fab up a pulley. If not for A/C. I would recomend s/c there are probably more benefit's for supercharging. Saying that though the Turbo is great
Yeah I don't have access to anything really to get that stuff done so I reckon it'd cost a mint compared to supercharging
Is there ANY way to run a supercharger & aircon That'd be ideal
Also considering I only really want 5-7 psi what blower should I run
stumped wrote:doesn't blower have pretty much the same boost all the way thru the rev range?
No. It gets hotter the harder it revs and loses volumetric efficiency the faster it spins. Obviously the lower boost you run the less dropoff you're going to have through the revs. I have heard of people getting good results with water-methanol sprayers infront of their s/c to cool both the air charge and s/c down. At too much revs/boost the teflon coated rotors start to delaminate.
benjamin78au wrote:do they need an intercooler on these sort of chargers or does it just help lower the possiblity of brokern bits, hmm like detonation.
As above. They don't need one but a small one would help. But it would add slightly to lag.
And remember, PSI is just a measure of airpressure between the s/c and your chamber, not airflow or efficiency. Sometimes a denser, colder charge is better than a much hotter one at slightly higher PSI.
hmm a switch on the supercharger, reminds me of mad max,
wonder how much fuel it would chew when on then normal.
only concern is switch it on how the normal g16b ecu going to like that.
therefore I will have it if its feasible 
But I know little about it... just the basic principles.
Also ideas on the parts required for each, what suits like blower sizes, and rough costs would be great.
HYPOFAB 
) so not too worried about low down boost. Even if it didn't come in till 2000rpm as long as it was smooth
