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33's on stock diffs

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33's on stock diffs

Post by Wesley »

Who's running 33's, what brand and what have you broken. I am thinking of getting 33 x 10.5 boggers i already have custom offset 15 x 8 rims. I have been running 31 x 10.5 mt/r's on 15 x 7 rims NO LOCKERS and havnt had any problems (except i kept breaking my t/c mounts but thats fixed now). Will be getting lockers when i get bigger tires. Only have a 1.3 to but do drive it hard.
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Post by Wesley »

Also is there anywhere on the web that has a decent review of hard core tire's running on a zook so i can get a idea of what to buy and what not to. I have looked on here but everyone seems to have mixed opinions.
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Post by RB zook »

you should be alrite with 33's depends on the driing style

when the lockers come thats when you will break stuff

if you want twin lockers and anythin bigger then 33 i recoment some other form of diff

i know alot of people get away with 32's
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Post by stumped »

i ran 31's with rear locker for ages with no dramas (til i rolled :D ), be interested in seeing how long yours lasts on zook diffs with 33s, specially boggers cos they're heavy...

anywhere u read 'bout tyres is gonna be biased in one way or another, dunno 'bout on the net but 4WD monthly did a pretty big tyre test a few months back on hardcore rubber, might be worth a read *shrugs*

all depends on what u wanna drive too. a lot of the nsw boys run big MTRs cos they're awesome on the rock, but something else like a swamper is gonna be better if ur a mud runner...
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Post by Wesley »

I think ill just buy them see how they go and if i break to much stuff go bigger diffs. Also whats the go with stronger axles http://www.puresuzuki.com/front_axles.htm
and what makes them stronger? are they just a bigger dia because if they are ill just make some at work. They say there 4140 but thats what stock axles are (4140 or EN25).
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Post by oozuk »

i'm soon to be running 33x13.5 bias claws on WT diffs with a 1.6L 16V Turbo vitara motor, so i'll let you know what flys out and breaks.

front C.V.'s are the worst bit, there like tooth picks
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Post by nicbeer »

Maybe look at some of the Birfield Cups as well.

I am going to running 31's with welded rear and lokka front soon so we will see what happens there as well.

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Post by Team Carpet RC Vehicles »

Just off the topic slightly my missus has a standard Zook 89' Will we expect any problems running 31 x 10.5 r15 BUCKSHOT. Muddies with only a 2' lift or should we just g0 for a 30' ????
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Post by nicbeer »

Team Carpet RC Vehicles wrote:Just off the topic slightly my missus has a standard Zook 89' Will we expect any problems running 31 x 10.5 r15 BUCKSHOT. Muddies with only a 2' lift or should we just g0 for a 30' ????


expect scrubbage in the wheelwells. A hammer on the seams is a must. also maybe make some slightly longer shackles up.

Also trim the bar that holds the bumper on as well
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Post by droopypete »

I have been running 33x13.5/15 claws for many years now, I have a 1.6L engine 5.125 diff gears with lockers and a 6:1 transfer case, I drive my car very hard and most of my breakages (uni's mostly) stem from a poorly designed track bar to address the axle wrap caused by the spring over, I drive on steep rutted tracks with ledges and loose rocks shale and mud, the odd short stretch of rock and driving my kids to school.
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Post by ljxtreem »

droopypete wrote:I have been running 33x13.5/15 claws for many years now, I have a 1.6L engine 5.125 diff gears with lockers and a 6:1 transfer case, I drive my car very hard and most of my breakages (uni's mostly) stem from a poorly designed track bar to address the axle wrap caused by the spring over, I drive on steep rutted tracks with ledges and loose rocks shale and mud, the odd short stretch of rock and driving my kids to school.
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I also hear u push start sprint cars, with your punie zook diffs ;)

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Post by droopypete »

ljxtreem wrote:
droopypete wrote:I have been running 33x13.5/15 claws for many years now, I have a 1.6L engine 5.125 diff gears with lockers and a 6:1 transfer case, I drive my car very hard and most of my breakages (uni's mostly) stem from a poorly designed track bar to address the axle wrap caused by the spring over, I drive on steep rutted tracks with ledges and loose rocks shale and mud, the odd short stretch of rock and driving my kids to school.
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I also hear u push start sprint cars, with your punie zook diffs ;)

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Post by ShuDuck »

nicbeer wrote:Maybe look at some of the Birfield Cups as well.

I am going to running 31's with welded rear and lokka front soon so we will see what happens there as well.

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I have welded rear, and I installed a front locker yesterday, first day wheeling I snapped a CV :roll:

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Post by grimbo »

I have run 34" Swampers with low gearing and lockers without any breakage in Victorian conditions ie mud and low traction surfaces.

Yes it has been in a shed for nearly 2 years but it ws driven pretty hard for the 3 or so years before that. I've had the swampers for nearly 5 years now with no problems
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Post by droopypete »

I will add to my post by saying that although I give my car a hard time, I am very mindfull of when I should back off and take another line, I try to be very smooth on the throtle when I have a bit of lock on the the front end as that is when it is at its weakest, when I get the front airborne I try to come down with the wheels pointing striaght ahead and my foot not touching the fire wall.
You will note the word try, because in the heat of battle, best intentions can be easely forgotten :oops:

When I first bought my car, I too broke a CV on one of my first trips, but as the car had been abused and not maintaned, I did not (and still do not) count that as a real breakage.

It will depend on a number of factors, available power, the surface you drive on, how much respect you show your vehicle, maintanance and many others, whether or not you will blow things to bits.

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you don't have any traction problems if your wheels aren't on the ground.
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Post by nicbeer »

Farrk.

After you saying that Droopy I think i won't have a zook left the current way i attack things. :oops:

I think i will have to change some driving styles with the lockers and the cig locker.

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Post by alien »

hehehe Nic you will never learn respect for your zuk =) you wouldnt be the same person if you did!!!
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Post by nicbeer »

:rofl: :rofl:

i will have to try.
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Post by Wesley »

Thanks for everyone input will be taking it out for one last run this week with the 31's then its of the road to get a spoa yj conversion with 3/4 elp rear and 33's :armsup: .
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Post by Team Carpet RC Vehicles »

The missus Zook is just a standard 1.3L SJ413 that we go on little bush trips and the rest of the time is shopping and work trips.. We have changed our tyres to 30 x 10.5 R15 Pirelli Scorpion 2000's I would like to put up a little build post to inform people of the progress.. where would the best post to put this???
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Post by nicbeer »

Team Carpet RC Vehicles wrote:The missus Zook is just a standard 1.3L SJ413 that we go on little bush trips and the rest of the time is shopping and work trips.. We have changed our tyres to 30 x 10.5 R15 Pirelli Scorpion 2000's I would like to put up a little build post to inform people of the progress.. where would the best post to put this???


Chuck a post up in the zook section or the members threads .

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Post by wildchild1066 »

i'm runnin 36s and locked front and back sofar i only sheared locking hub bolts on both sides at once .
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Post by RB zook »

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RB zook wrote::D

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Post by stumped »

HRZOOK wrote:
RB zook wrote::D

33's on zuk diffs


that reminds me... ryan, you owe me an axle!!!!
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Post by DeWsE »

stumped wrote:
HRZOOK wrote:
RB zook wrote::D

33's on zuk diffs


that reminds me... ryan, you owe me an axle!!!!


Hmm that reminds me, Drew owes me a whole rear diff!
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Post by RB zook »

stumped wrote:
HRZOOK wrote:
RB zook wrote::D

33's on zuk diffs


that reminds me... ryan, you owe me an axle!!!!



fark you still on abou that

ill give you an axle with my coily diffs for 600 :finger:
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Post by HRZOOK »

stumped wrote:
HRZOOK wrote:
RB zook wrote::D

33's on zuk diffs


that reminds me... ryan, you owe me an axle!!!!


:roll: Come on stumped it was an old POS axle

makes up for all the time RB spent on ya draws that ya went and bent :D
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Post by redzook »

HRZOOK wrote:
stumped wrote:
HRZOOK wrote:
RB zook wrote::D

33's on zuk diffs


that reminds me... ryan, you owe me an axle!!!!


:roll: Come on stumped it was an old POS axle

makes up for all the time RB spent on ya draws that ya went and bent :D


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