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Power steering plumbing, need help

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Power steering plumbing, need help

Post by tomsoffroad »

Heres the problem.....
I have a 84 Supra pump on the motor..... I have a IFS steering box from a Surf.
The pump has three pipes. One is the main feed from the reservior, one is the pressure release valve which must go back to the reservior, and the last one goes to the steering box.
My problem is.... Where does the other pipe on the steering box go????

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Post by STUMPY »

i think you'll find hat its the return line that runs back to the resevior.
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dosent it go in a circle

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Post by tomsoffroad »

So if the other outlet/inlet on the steering box goes back to the reservior, I'll still end up with extra inlet/outlet on the pump!!!!
There are five inlet/outlet pipes all up!!!
Its got me stuffed

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Post by tomsoffroad »

Ah ha. got it sorted :D :D :D :D
Need another return on the reservior.
Happy happy joy joy :lol: :lol:

Thanks for your help guys
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Post by Busiboy »

The return lines don't have a real lot of pressure, might be easier to put a t junction in on the return, run 2 hoses instead of three. just make sure the return hose is a larger diameter.
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Post by tomsoffroad »

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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 2:04 pm

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The return lines don't have a real lot of pressure, might be easier to put a t junction in on the return, run 2 hoses instead of three. just make sure the return hose is a larger diameter.


Ended up just adding another return in the reservior.


BUT :bad-words: :bad-words: The bitch won't work.
I've changed hoses round.

Anyways thrown the toys for today, will have another look tomorrow.
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Post by RUFF »

Never seen a Toyota pump have 3 lines running to it. But i have seen one with an extra fitting that actually took a pressure switch to bump the idle up when you turn at Idle.
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Post by tomsoffroad »

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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:12 pm

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Never seen a Toyota pump have 3 lines running to it. But i have seen one with an extra fitting that actually took a pressure switch to bump the idle up when you turn at Idle.


Mmmm. No I don't think thats it. But then again I'll look into it 'cos its got me stumped!! Might have to use the last resort......... Consult the manual for a supra!!! :oops: :oops:
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Post by killalux »

i have a later model supra (7m) pump on mine and it only has two outlets plus the solonoid valve for idle up as ruff mentioned
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Post by tomsoffroad »

Well, 7hrs all up to mount and make work power steering. And it still doesn't work. Starting to think that there may be a problem with the steering box. :roll:

Oh well, I'll get it sorted eventually ;)
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Post by eddie »

tomsoffroad wrote:Well, 7hrs all up to mount and make work power steering. And it still doesn't work. Starting to think that there may be a problem with the steering box. :roll:

Oh well, I'll get it sorted eventually ;)


can ya take a photo of it???
as thay have said there could be a preasure switch out of the pump. all u need to di if it is, is to block it off

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Post by tomsoffroad »

Heres a pic.
Don't bag me.... I know that the pressure hose is attached to the wrong pipe on the steering box.
I'm having trouble believing its being such a bastard of a thing :bad-words: Nothing like a good challange!!!! :lol:
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Post by tomsoffroad »

Heres a better pic of the pump
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Post by eddie »

hi ya

when u start ya moter have a look in the resv and see if fliud is moving
looks like u have the sencer outlet hooked up to ya box
so fluid is flowing from res to pump then back to res
resv should only have two pipes, one underneath that feeds pipe and one on side that is the return

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Post by eddie »

try this and see if it works

inlet on the box will be the smaller of the two holes

also pipes from pump to box should be crimped high pressuer pipe aswell

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Post by tomsoffroad »

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try this and see if it works

inlet on the box will be the smaller of the two holes

also pipes from pump to box should be crimped high pressuer pipe aswell


Yip tried this too. The bottom hose on the pump has pressure (Just ask the garage wall :D :D :D ) The middle one doesn't appear to have any pressure.

I'm starting to think that its the steering box. Is there really anything in an IFS box which can go wrong?
I've seen an exploded diagram of these boxes and they don't appear to have any parts in them which might be sticking.

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Post by eddie »

tomsoffroad wrote:
eddie
Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:59 pm

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try this and see if it works

inlet on the box will be the smaller of the two holes

also pipes from pump to box should be crimped high pressuer pipe aswell


Yip tried this too. The bottom hose on the pump has pressure (Just ask the garage wall :D :D :D ) The middle one doesn't appear to have any pressure.

I'm starting to think that its the steering box. Is there really anything in an IFS box which can go wrong?
I've seen an exploded diagram of these boxes and they don't appear to have any parts in them which might be sticking.

Cheers
Thomas

try the middle one as the feed from resv and top one to the box

if that dont work im stuffed lol :?: :?

other wise do a search on the net and see if u can fine a install diagram
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Post by tomsoffroad »

WHOOO HOOOO


Got it working.

Thanks to everyone who offered advise it was much apreciated. :)
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Post by ToNkA »

tomsoffroad wrote:WHOOO HOOOO


Got it working.

Thanks to everyone who offered advise it was much apreciated. :)


Well for those who have been following this thread, care to share what was wrong?
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Post by eddie »

tomsoffroad wrote:WHOOO HOOOO


Got it working.

Thanks to everyone who offered advise it was much apreciated. :)


so what was the prob??
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Post by tomsoffroad »

eddie
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:58 pm

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tomsoffroad wrote:
WHOOO HOOOO


Got it working.

Thanks to everyone who offered advise it was much apreciated.


so what was the prob??
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tomsoffroad wrote:
WHOOO HOOOO


Got it working.

Thanks to everyone who offered advise it was much apreciated.


Well for those who have been following this thread, care to share what was wrong?




Did more research. Found a Supra like the one my motor came out of. Had a really good look. Shifted afew hoses again.......... and again......... and again.


Eddie had it 90% right in this post

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try this and see if it works

inlet on the box will be the smaller of the two holes

also pipes from pump to box should be crimped high pressuer pipe aswell





The problem was the two out lets on the pump were ment to be round the other way.
I'm stoked, my truck hasn't had power steering since I put the Supra in in 2002 :oops:

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Post by eddie »

all good then
have fun on those tracks again
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Post by tomsoffroad »

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all good then
have fun on those tracks again


Cheers, I will.
Taking it out for a thrashing today and then have a big mission into the rocks next weekend. South Island high country, can't beat it :D
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Post by hypo »

tomsoffroad wrote:
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 8:02 pm

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all good then
have fun on those tracks again


Cheers, I will.
Taking it out for a thrashing today and then have a big mission into the rocks next weekend. South Island high country, can't beat it :D


make sure u get some wheeling pix hey............
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tomsoffroad wrote:
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all good then
have fun on those tracks again



Cheers, I will.
Taking it out for a thrashing today and then have a big mission into the rocks next weekend. South Island high country, can't beat it


make sure u get some wheeling pix hey............


Of course :D :D :D

This power steering is the best I've ever had. One wee problem..... It keeps blowing the hoses off. Think that I get some industrial hydrolic hose made. ;) ;)
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