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Simex Immatation Tread All Opinions Needed

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Simex Immatation Tread All Opinions Needed

Post by Mud_5lut »

I have found a new bread of tyre at my local 4x4 shop. They are a rip off of the Simex Centipede tyres but they call them selves Silver Stones some of you may have heard of them before they are 35's looks like they will go on 15x8 with ease looks exactly like simex, they are asking $300 each has any one herd of them.
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Post by Tiny »

yes, search on here as there was a thread a little while ago
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Post by adam.s »

You can get them for $230, probably even cheaper if you look around.
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Post by eliteforce32 »

Foad are u talking about silverstones or mongrels?
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Post by rOd »

Are you sure it wasnt a mongrel on a silverstone carcass???
Dont expect mere proof to sway my opinion.
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Post by PSI250 »

rOd wrote:Are you sure it wasnt a mongrel on a silverstone carcass???


Mongrels are similar, these silverstones are damn near identical, i think they only come in 16s at the moment too.

AnthonyP had them on his RR i'm pretty sure.
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Post by TUFFRANGIE »

Here is a pic:

I think Brawn in Dandenong have them, Grimace definately had them on his POS
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Post by dieselSWB »

YEAH I WAS LOOKING AT EM BUT THEY ONLY COME IN ONE SIZE 35 BY 16
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Post by sierrajim »

save some more money and buy the Simex's. I've only had them on my car for a short time but have no complaints at all.
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Post by Bingham »

Mud_5lut wrote:I have found a new bread of tyre at my local 4x4 shop. They are a rip off of the Simex Centipede tyres but they call them selves Silver Stones some of you may have heard of them before they are 35's looks like they will go on 15x8 with ease looks exactly like simex, they are asking $300 each has any one herd of them.


my opinion is buy cheap and get cheap..... why not buy the genuine article and just suss out a good price from guys like ryan at fourby's marooka........................ mention me

companies that rip of shit like this are clearly behind in the technology and research and therefore this goes hand in hand with the ability to construct a quality tyre................

other tyre may look the same but what about ware? wall thickness/plys rubber composition/ chipping characteristics/ road capabilities/ handling................ blah blah blah....

i have a similar issue in my job where an oposition is selling their prodct of my companies back saying it's as good as but 2/3rd the price........... following testing it was found to be incorrect and infact ours worked up to 500 % better.............

a bit off course but you get my drift.....

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Post by GRIMACE »

excellent in dirt sand and mud...

shit on rock... :D

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Post by GRIMACE »

this is them under my POS b4 i cutthe guards
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Post by Tim D »

I seen these at LCMP at the expo, they look like they have more space between the internal lugs, not shore about the outer ones thow ;)
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Post by GRIMACE »

Thats Them Tim D,

The guys at that stand where good to have a chat with.... I gave them abit of my feedback :)
For the price I think they are good, but only if you not into rock :)
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Post by InSanE »

what are the 35's worth in the silverstones?
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Post by bad_religion_au »

how bad are these in the rocks?

comparable to bfgoodrich muddies, bfgoodrich all terrains? highway tires?

just wondering as i don't drive rocks that often but they have been known to present themselves
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Post by GRIMACE »

my bfg muddies where def better on rocks.
but these eat the muddies in soft dirt and gravel and mud.
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Post by bad_religion_au »

thanks for the feedback, ive got bfg all terrains now, so these'll probably be an improvement everywhere...
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Post by GRIMACE »

bad_religion_au wrote:thanks for the feedback, ive got bfg all terrains now, so these'll probably be an improvement everywhere...


well these will def be better than your all terrains but dont get up me about their onroad performance :shock: :lol:
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Post by bogged »

Tim D wrote:I seen these at LCMP at the expo, they look like they have more space between the internal lugs, not shore about the outer ones thow ;)
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isnt there such a thing as a Patent anymore? suprised simex havent fried their arse like mickey thompson were supposed to have done with maxxis I think it was?
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Post by 1MadEngineer »

Bingham wrote:
companies that rip of shit like this are clearly behind in the technology and research and therefore this goes hand in hand with the ability to construct a quality tyre................

other tyre may look the same but what about ware? wall thickness/plys rubber composition/ chipping characteristics/ road capabilities/ handling................ blah blah blah....



i think if you do your research you will find that the moulds for the ET were purchased from a pommy company nearly 10 years ago and the were previously sold in the UK as an industrial tyre over 15years ago.
I have them (by a different brand) in a pommy mag from 1992 about 8 years before we got them here.


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Post by bad_religion_au »

i wouldn't expect onroad performance to be good with these... don't judge me on my all terrains, they were on the car when i bought it :)

how streetable would these be, the truck doesn't get driven often except to and from the bush... or are they a second set to bolt on to go play
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Post by TuffRR »

1MadEngineer wrote:i think if you do your research you will find that the moulds for the ET were purchased from a pommy company nearly 10 years ago and the were previously sold in the UK as an industrial tyre over 15years ago.
I have them (by a different brand) in a pommy mag from 1992 about 8 years before we got them here.
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I had heard that Chris Hummer had designed them specifically for the Malaysian Rainforest challenge. :?
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Post by rOd »

TuffRR wrote:I had heard that Chris Hummer had designed them specifically for the Malaysian Rainforest challenge. :?


Yeah, I remember reading that on the MRC site a few years ago.
Dont expect mere proof to sway my opinion.
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Post by Bingham »

1MadEngineer wrote:
Bingham wrote:
companies that rip of shit like this are clearly behind in the technology and research and therefore this goes hand in hand with the ability to construct a quality tyre................

other tyre may look the same but what about ware? wall thickness/plys rubber composition/ chipping characteristics/ road capabilities/ handling................ blah blah blah....



i think if you do your research you will find that the moulds for the ET were purchased from a pommy company nearly 10 years ago and the were previously sold in the UK as an industrial tyre over 15years ago.
I have them (by a different brand) in a pommy mag from 1992 about 8 years before we got them here.


OLD TECHNOLOGY :finger:



PURCHASED THE MOULDS.... point 1......... :finger:

and if you soley judge a tyre on its looks in terms of technology then my friend then i would be a little concerned..........or is everything else for example time money research that goes into coop tyres say just looks....

you think they research how pretty it is and can they rip it off............

if somewone copies a cooper do you think you will get a km guarantee just because they "LOOK" the same and are $50 cheaper.............
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Post by GRIMACE »

bad_religion_au wrote:how streetable would these be, the truck doesn't get driven often except to and from the bush... or are they a second set to bolt on to go play


d00d i would def have them as a play only set.. I streeted them but fark me in the wet they were dangerous... in the dry they were noisy as all fawk and they wear out and overheat to the shithole at low pressures. :lol:
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Post by Rainbow Warrior »

Bingham wrote:
Mud_5lut wrote:I have found a new bread of tyre at my local 4x4 shop. They are a rip off of the Simex Centipede tyres but they call them selves Silver Stones some of you may have heard of them before they are 35's looks like they will go on 15x8 with ease looks exactly like simex, they are asking $300 each has any one herd of them.


my opinion is buy cheap and get cheap..... why not buy the genuine article and just suss out a good price from guys like ryan at fourby's marooka........................ mention me

companies that rip of shit like this are clearly behind in the technology and research and therefore this goes hand in hand with the ability to construct a quality tyre................

other tyre may look the same but what about ware? wall thickness/plys rubber composition/ chipping characteristics/ road capabilities/ handling................ blah blah blah....

i have a similar issue in my job where an oposition is selling their prodct of my companies back saying it's as good as but 2/3rd the price........... following testing it was found to be incorrect and infact ours worked up to 500 % better.............

a bit off course but you get my drift.....

mark bingham


Silverstone were making Bar treads & other full on offroad tyres 15 years ago before anybody with 4WD's had heard of Simex.

People raved about how well their 10R M/T's went in the mud until they saw what you could plow through in a stock landy with 7.50x16 bar treads.
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Bingham wrote:
1MadEngineer wrote:
Bingham wrote:
companies that rip of shit like this are clearly behind in the technology and research and therefore this goes hand in hand with the ability to construct a quality tyre................

other tyre may look the same but what about ware? wall thickness/plys rubber composition/ chipping characteristics/ road capabilities/ handling................ blah blah blah....



i think if you do your research you will find that the moulds for the ET were purchased from a pommy company nearly 10 years ago and the were previously sold in the UK as an industrial tyre over 15years ago.
I have them (by a different brand) in a pommy mag from 1992 about 8 years before we got them here.


OLD TECHNOLOGY :finger:



PURCHASED THE MOULDS.... point 1......... :finger:

and if you soley judge a tyre on its looks in terms of technology then my friend then i would be a little concerned..........or is everything else for example time money research that goes into coop tyres say just looks....

you think they research how pretty it is and can they rip it off............

if somewone copies a cooper do you think you will get a km guarantee just because they "LOOK" the same and are $50 cheaper.............
:finger: :finger:


who said i was judging them :x i just said they are a remake of another brand. ok the construction is different, i am not commenting on that.
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Post by mudtoy »

Having been sponsored by Silverstone for over 5 years now I was dissapointed to see the similarities of their Xtreme but also pleased that they are making an effort to progress. The construction of the tyre is a new design and is only in it's early stages. I have advised Malaysia of a number of possible design changes to help individualise and improve on the appearance and design.

That said, the tyre works extremely well on and off road and the wider spacing between the central fingers means that it cleans alot more efficiently.

I have also had assurance from Malaysia that the design changes from the copied brand are sufficient to satisfy international laws (and I am keeping my fingers crossed).
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Post by polly »

Silverstone were making Bar treads & other full on offroad tyres 15 years ago before anybody with 4WD's had heard of Simex.

People raved about how well their 10R M/T's went in the mud until they saw what you could plow through in a stock landy with 7.50x16 bar treads.



yeah had 7.50 x16 bar treads on my first 4B... series II landy in the early 80's.... and they ROCK :cool: :cool: :armsup:
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