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Post by Zookified »

What speed is everyone's zooks doing down the highway? Can you sit on 100? What about around town. I went driving in a geared zook with 32's and I didn't think they would be as slow as it was. Just wondering how everyone elses go.
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Post by alien »

215/75r15 tyres, vit 1.6L with weber 32/36, extractors and 2" pipe... 4th gear 5500rpm = 140km/hr (on a dyno). ive done 160km/hr in 5th and its scary (not the speed, just the fine)... was doing about 4200rpm at 160km/hr in 5th so prolly get it up to 180-190 if i wanted. this was with a slight headwind too!

the 1.3L in 5th had no worries doing 150km/hr either - i got the fine to prove it... haha got done slowing down... 134km/hr in 90 zone. i can only assume the 1.3 did 150 though as its where 150 would sit if it were on the speedo... with the 215's it may have been 160, maybe 145... no idea.
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Post by nicbeer »

Alien - i think he means how it goes with legal speeds. :)

I have 31's 3.9ratios and 1ltr case. is fine on road - will sit on 100 easy at about 3000rpm.

speedo is broken now so driving by the tacho. :lol:

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Post by JrZook »

I gots 1,3l 1l tcase and 3.9 diffs running 235/75 tyres (bout 29 1/2 inch) wif extractors and 2 inch. On highway gps measures 100 at 3700rpm. will get to 120 with ease.
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Post by alien »

i also drive by tacho =) 215/75r15 tyres, stock gearing n transfer ('92 WT)

3rd - 2900rpm - 50k
4th - 2000rpm - 50k
4th - 2500rpm - 60k
5th - 2000rpm - 60k
5th - 2250rpm - 70k
5th - 2500rpm - 80k
5th - 2900rpm - 90k
5th - 3100rpm - 100k
5th - 3400rpm - 110k
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Post by Crawford »

Alien how you do that?

i can get up to 120.. but i cant get any higher and my revs are still low?

is it fully opening the carb or not?
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Post by nicbeer »

Use ya rpm. they love it. My old 1.3 did 150k scary as well.

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Post by alien »

how do i get the speed or how i get the rpm to speed?

rpmto speed done by CB and mobile phone over a few occasions to a few new(ish) cars...

speed... well... i put my foot down and hold on for dear life =P hehe.. old carby was jetted larger, the 1.6 with weber is correctly jetted and tuned also... so yes it opens up all the way when foot flat
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Post by derelict_frog »

I have 1.3 with everything stock, bar extractors and 2" exaust and on 29"s and on the highway here its slighty up hill so in 5th it dies a bit so i only do about 90km, it does about 110km downhill revving it a fair bit in 5th.
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Post by Crawford »

nibceer the rpm wont get any higher..

i have better luck footdown in 4th gear to get it higher
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Post by derelict_frog »

yea i get that, 4th gear goes faster uphill revving it a bit.
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Post by nicbeer »

The reason for that is 5th is lower geared for economy while at speed.

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Post by OldGold »

I had it up to 140, just off the dial down a really big hill once, was scary as!
But now, stock gearing on 30s, I can maintain 100-110 but only just. 5th is a flat/downhill affair only, I rarely use it.
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Post by superzuki »

i go down the higway at about 90kms in 5th 4th feels has more responce and will acelerate(slowly but still faster than 5th). i can go up to 110 with my foot to the floor. slight downhills i can hold 100 easily in top.
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Post by JrZook »

Crawford wrote:nibceer the rpm wont get any higher..

i have better luck footdown in 4th gear to get it higher


Check that the secondary throat on ur carby is opening up. The vacume tube for it might be all clogged up or cracked.
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Post by Crawford »

would it still get up to 120km/h if it was clogged up?

How do you do this you got any pics?.... dont really know that much about engines..

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Post by Polar_Bear »

speed also depends if your hubs are locked, my vitara will go about 10 - 15 kms faster if my hubs are unlocked :P
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Post by SiKiD_01 »

Polar_Bear wrote:speed also depends if your hubs are locked, my vitara will go about 10 - 15 kms faster if my hubs are unlocked :P


*ding ding* CORRECT. funny enough, its true. and you can really feel the difference in response too.

i raced a ricer once in my vit, gave it a good go, bonnet to bonnet. then another time, just by co incidence, we lined up again, and i gave it to him left right and centre.

my hubs were unlocked in the second run. needless to say, he never lined me up again. true story.
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Post by alien »

never would have thunk it... i drive hubs locked all the time... its not engaged at the transfer so who cares =) i spose the extra weight on the front wheels from turning the axles would increase momentum in the front marginally but never thought it would affect speed - hence it likely affects economy too...
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Post by Crawford »

my car burns a lot more oil if the hubs are locked...

it is less efficent of hubs are locked for sure dude..

very obvious.. drive with them on free for a bit u should notice the difference
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Post by SiKiD_01 »

alien wrote:never would have thunk it... i drive hubs locked all the time... its not engaged at the transfer so who cares =) i spose the extra weight on the front wheels from turning the axles would increase momentum in the front marginally but never thought it would affect speed - hence it likely affects economy too...


economy? geeezus, dont start. hubs locked can roughly see a 30% - 45% reduced economy rate (in my vit anyway, measured pedal floored with secondary open all the time)

but its still fun, until that dreaded seal starts to leak again.
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Post by s3111107@ »

First 4by was a siera, had to spend a fair bit on bearings, starter, bushes and cooling system but engine and tcase/gear box was still strong at 160,000+km, was running 235 at's. did 110 on freeway fine with no wind or incline, could do 110 up most hills in 4th but it was revvin hard. Got it off speedo once way past 140 down long hill, was sort of scary and very loud, rpm was also at about 6800 just waiting for it to pop. Smelt a little funky after but the little things are almost unbreakable. only ever broke engine and gbox mounts thrashing the guts out of it on beaches, paddocks and dirt roads. It also cornered amazingly on the road considering, with no suspension mods lent a little then stopped, could keep up or better many imports and others down deserted freeways and country roads, just lacked power on the straights. should have seen their faces in the mirrors when they think a little zook is going to pass them on a very fast and winding road through a corner .e.g. old Adelaide freeway (eagle on the hill run). amazing llittle trucks. Sort of wishing had never got rid of mine Rangies cost so much to run (needed better long distance 4by and always wanted a RR).
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Post by s3111107@ »

First 4by was a siera, had to spend a fair bit on bearings, starter, bushes and cooling system but engine and tcase/gear box was still strong at 160,000+km, was running 235 at's. did 110 on freeway fine with no wind or incline, could do 110 up most hills in 4th but it was revvin hard. Got it off speedo once way past 140 down long hill, was sort of scary and very loud, rpm was also at about 6800 just waiting for it to pop. Smelt a little funky after but the little things are almost unbreakable. only ever broke engine and gbox mounts thrashing the guts out of it on beaches, paddocks and dirt roads. It also cornered amazingly on the road considering, with no suspension mods lent a little then stopped, could keep up or better many imports and others down deserted freeways and country roads, just lacked power on the straights. should have seen their faces in the mirrors when they think a little zook is going to pass them on a very fast and winding road through a corner .e.g. old Adelaide freeway (eagle on the hill run). amazing llittle trucks. Sort of wishing had never got rid of mine Rangies cost so much to run (needed better long distance 4by and always wanted a RR).
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Post by Guy »

s3111107@ wrote:First 4by was a siera, had to spend a fair bit on bearings, starter, bushes and cooling system but engine and tcase/gear box was still strong at 160,000+km, was running 235 at's. did 110 on freeway fine with no wind or incline, could do 110 up most hills in 4th but it was revvin hard. Got it off speedo once way past 140 down long hill, was sort of scary and very loud, rpm was also at about 6800 just waiting for it to pop. Smelt a little funky after but the little things are almost unbreakable. only ever broke engine and gbox mounts thrashing the guts out of it on beaches, paddocks and dirt roads. It also cornered amazingly on the road considering, with no suspension mods lent a little then stopped, could keep up or better many imports and others down deserted freeways and country roads, just lacked power on the straights. should have seen their faces in the mirrors when they think a little zook is going to pass them on a very fast and winding road through a corner .e.g. old Adelaide freeway (eagle on the hill run). amazing llittle trucks. Sort of wishing had never got rid of mine Rangies cost so much to run (needed better long distance 4by and always wanted a RR).


Your preaching to the choir in here brother ..
I used to have a great time racing other vehicles in my Zuk when she was still little .. used to have a great race a couple of days a month with a little red alpha on my way home from work .. had no idea of his name etc .. but I raced him one day, he won .. just .. after that we would occasioanlly find each other on the same bit of road with several 2 lane round abouts abd a few good turns etc .. I would get him under brakes into and out of the corners .. he would thrash me in the strait,s

Fastest I ever got to in my Zuk acccording to the GPS was a shade over 160 . slight downhill, 1.6, mild cam and headwork (larger valves, port matched etc) on 32 BFG's ..
Even with 33 swampers and just a 4.16 T/case it would easily sit on 100+ on flat roads uphills downshift to 4th would see you easily stay on 100+ ..


Sucked a bit of juice though .. I loved that motor .. for a carbed 1.6 it pulled bloody hard .. (would run most 16v EFi's)
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Post by cut 4B »

the zook he went for a spin in is mine and the motor is stuffed . I run 32 and s3 rockhopper but it will still sit on 110 down the highway. im putting the new motor in for the logan night run on the weekend it should be a bit faster then. The funny thing is when i took him for a drive it was around town and the zook stands out a bit so you want to get done for speeding. :D
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Post by mud4b »

cut 4B wrote:the zook he went for a spin in is mine and the motor is stuffed . I run 32 and s3 rockhopper but it will still sit on 110 down the highway. im putting the new motor in for the logan night run on the weekend it should be a bit faster then. The funny thing is when i took him for a drive it was around town and the zook stands out a bit so you want to get done for speeding. :D


sure sure....slowass... :finger:

im running 33s, 4.1 diff ratios, 5 speed, s3 rockhoppers, g13bb.
at 100ks im doing 4200 rpm..

it can sit there and above easily all day...
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Post by tuffsierra »

just out off curiosity whats a safe rev limit for the stock 1.3 has any one actually blown one up from over reving?sorry to hijack the post :)
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Post by Zookified »

Hahah, wasn't taking the piss Whitey. I was jsut curious, because don't want to spend all my cash on a truck that can't drive a highway.


I went 4bying with Whitey. Cv broke so I got to go navigator and go for bit of a dip in the mud, good stuff.


Thanks for all the replys.
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