Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

approved 4 or 6 point roll cages

Tech Talk for Nissan owners.

Moderators: toaddog, V8Patrol

Post Reply
Posts: 1781
Joined: Mon May 17, 2004 10:01 pm
Location: Geelong

approved 4 or 6 point roll cages

Post by beretta »

Just wondering what are they worth and how hard to install in a GQ wagon?
Where can you get em in Melb?

Thanks for your help.

Paul
Posts: 151
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:00 am
Location: Melbourne

Post by OnPatrol »

I'm surprised that you haven't had much of a response on this topic...try Ontrack 4x4 in keilor.
Posts: 3739
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:10 pm

Post by mickyd555 »

doesnt tiny do them??? i think he has some prices in his sig line.
Posts: 1068
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 2:41 pm
Location: in the ghetto

Post by morkz »

you've also go sandy @ aus4wd

or you can use savage racing or it could be ravage not sure but they are located in lilydale i saw some of there work on rohans middy gq and it looks awesome. they are loacted in lilydale
---------------------------------------------
04 GU TD6 wagon with some ARB stuff
---------------------------------------------
Morkz Media Web and Graphic Design
Also webhosting and domain registration.
Posts: 1781
Joined: Mon May 17, 2004 10:01 pm
Location: Geelong

Post by beretta »

Thanks for the responses, will do some research in the next few days at those suggested suppliers. Was surprised I didn't get more respsonses and more info. Am interested in having a go at a few comps and I am going to need one, so any info is good info.

Thanks again!
Posts: 2853
Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:55 pm
Location: All over the world or your mum

Post by toughnut »

I can get 6 point roll cages for $1150 plus GST and extra's like barriers etc. supplied only for this price. Works out to be about $1800 fitted and approved with a cargo barrier. ;) and I'm in townsville though :roll:
Last edited by toughnut on Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:59 pm, edited 2 times in total.
j-top paj wrote:gayer than jizz on a beard
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic ... 6&t=231346
Posts: 1403
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:59 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by DaveS3 »

KLC in bayswater do them as well - awesome work.

Dave
Land Rover Discovery - GQ conversion underway
Road Ranger
Posts: 10722
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:21 pm
Location: In a town near you

Post by Tiny »

yeah, I do 6 point cages, email me at tiny@rageracing.com.au



Image
If the above post did not offend you in any way please PM me so I can try harder!!
Posts: 527
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:43 am
Location: Auckland, NZ

Post by GQ TROL »

Tiny,
What's your take on being able to make the lower third of the back stays verticle??

We've got an extra-cab which is too short to be able to have those back stays completely straight all the way to the floor, but if we have them at 30 degrees to verticle for the most part, we can just fit it in if the lower 300mm is verticle to the floor.

Cheers
Mitch
Road Ranger
Posts: 10722
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:21 pm
Location: In a town near you

Post by Tiny »

GQ TROL wrote:Tiny,
What's your take on being able to make the lower third of the back stays verticle??

We've got an extra-cab which is too short to be able to have those back stays completely straight all the way to the floor, but if we have them at 30 degrees to verticle for the most part, we can just fit it in if the lower 300mm is verticle to the floor.

Cheers
Mitch
you cant have a abend in them as in the event of a rol they will offer little or no support as the will just bend at that point. most extra babs will have the rear try with a "rear 4 point half cage" and a 4 point front half cage, on mine when I chop I will pass two conecting peices through the cab to join the two half cages and will effectivly have an 8 point cage. although the rules differ and some allow two full 4 points, OBC next year for eg will require the two cgaes joined so I have being told. it seems silly to me as the 2 4 points un joined will be stronger than a 6 point in a soft top or wagon anywhy :?
If the above post did not offend you in any way please PM me so I can try harder!!
Posts: 527
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:43 am
Location: Auckland, NZ

Post by GQ TROL »

Thanks Tiny, that was my interpretation of it also.

NZ will inevitably follow AU rules, so we intend to build our cage to CCDA specs. We're trying to avoid cutting holes thru the bulkhead of the cab to connect the two 4 point cages together......was just hoping you had a magic solution to our problem, guess not :cry:

As the cab is mounted to the chassis via rubber body mounts, and hence allows some movement, I'm not keen on connecting the rigid (chassis mounted) rear 4 point cage to a flexible front 4 point cage....just asking for trouble in my view.
Road Ranger
Posts: 10722
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:21 pm
Location: In a town near you

Post by Tiny »

GQ TROL wrote:Thanks Tiny, that was my interpretation of it also.

NZ will inevitably follow AU rules, so we intend to build our cage to CCDA specs. We're trying to avoid cutting holes thru the bulkhead of the cab to connect the two 4 point cages together......was just hoping you had a magic solution to our problem, guess not :cry:

As the cab is mounted to the chassis via rubber body mounts, and hence allows some movement, I'm not keen on connecting the rigid (chassis mounted) rear 4 point cage to a flexible front 4 point cage....just asking for trouble in my view.
agree, the option (more work) is to pass the internal cage through the body with room for movement (and high probability of flooding :D ) and mount internal cage on the chassis, but I reckon leave it as two seperate cages until the rules for the two to be joined are enforced. if you want to be safe, get two clamps (i use tig welded custom 6mm ones) the right lenght of tube with the holes for the clams drilled and a hole saw to the events and then you can do it in 20 minutes if it is enforced
If the above post did not offend you in any way please PM me so I can try harder!!
Posts: 527
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:43 am
Location: Auckland, NZ

Post by GQ TROL »

agree, the option (more work) is to pass the internal cage through the body with room for movement (and high probability of flooding ) and mount internal cage on the chassis, but I reckon leave it as two seperate cages until the rules for the two to be joined are enforced. if you want to be safe, get two clamps (i use tig welded custom 6mm ones) the right lenght of tube with the holes for the clams drilled and a hole saw to the events and then you can do it in 20 minutes if it is enforced
Sounds like a good idea! It won't be enforced in NZ for atleast 12 months I'd say.

What happens in the event of the body seperating from the chassis (which would be ok cos you're safely enclosed in your cage)?? but the rigid chassis mounted rear cage will have to come along for the ride also?? Can't be a good combo??
Road Ranger
Posts: 10722
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:21 pm
Location: In a town near you

Post by Tiny »

GQ TROL wrote:
agree, the option (more work) is to pass the internal cage through the body with room for movement (and high probability of flooding ) and mount internal cage on the chassis, but I reckon leave it as two seperate cages until the rules for the two to be joined are enforced. if you want to be safe, get two clamps (i use tig welded custom 6mm ones) the right lenght of tube with the holes for the clams drilled and a hole saw to the events and then you can do it in 20 minutes if it is enforced
Sounds like a good idea! It won't be enforced in NZ for atleast 12 months I'd say.

What happens in the event of the body seperating from the chassis (which would be ok cos you're safely enclosed in your cage)?? but the rigid chassis mounted rear cage will have to come along for the ride also?? Can't be a good combo??
duck :D
If the above post did not offend you in any way please PM me so I can try harder!!
Posts: 527
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:43 am
Location: Auckland, NZ

Post by GQ TROL »

duck
hehe, the simplest answer is usually the correct one huh! :D
Posts: 2097
Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:06 pm
Location: Land of Plenty

Post by blkmav »

I have just come back from talking with Andrew @ On Track. $2400 for a 6 point installed. They are actually made inside the vehicle. After seeing the 6 point, I wouldn't bother with a 4 point. These bars are a work of art.
Weekdays - Prado GXL D4D with some stuff
Weekends - Mav shorty with lots of stuff
Road Ranger
Posts: 10722
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:21 pm
Location: In a town near you

Post by Tiny »

blkmav wrote:I have just come back from talking with Andrew @ On Track. $2400 for a 6 point installed. They are actually made inside the vehicle. After seeing the 6 point, I wouldn't bother with a 4 point. These bars are a work of art.
I do em for $2100.00 installed as long as the car comes to me with the dash loose
Last edited by Tiny on Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
If the above post did not offend you in any way please PM me so I can try harder!!
Posts: 527
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:43 am
Location: Auckland, NZ

Post by GQ TROL »

I have just come back from talking with Andrew @ On Track. $2400 for a 6 point installed. They are actually made inside the vehicle. After seeing the 6 point, I wouldn't bother with a 4 point. These bars are a work of art.


Pics??
Posts: 2853
Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:55 pm
Location: All over the world or your mum

Post by toughnut »

Another thing you can look at for you extra cab is run a third hoop instead of stays. ;)
j-top paj wrote:gayer than jizz on a beard
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic ... 6&t=231346
Posts: 1781
Joined: Mon May 17, 2004 10:01 pm
Location: Geelong

Post by beretta »

Thanks for the info everyone, very helpful!

Hey Tiny roughly how long does it take you to install them? I'm in melb,but the in laws are near Penrith so come up there a bit anyway, definately not out of the question!

Thanks,

Paul
Posts: 1781
Joined: Mon May 17, 2004 10:01 pm
Location: Geelong

Post by beretta »

some pics would be awesome if available, pics installed in cab would be cool too.....pushing my luck?
Road Ranger
Posts: 10722
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:21 pm
Location: In a town near you

Post by Tiny »

beretta wrote:Thanks for the info everyone, very helpful!

Hey Tiny roughly how long does it take you to install them? I'm in melb,but the in laws are near Penrith so come up there a bit anyway, definately not out of the question!

Thanks,

Paul
take two blokes all day, can email pics, only $70.00 to freight to vic anyway
If the above post did not offend you in any way please PM me so I can try harder!!
Posts: 1781
Joined: Mon May 17, 2004 10:01 pm
Location: Geelong

Post by beretta »

Yeah, when I get one I would like it installed by someone who knows what they're doin.....so I won't be putting it in! Anyway email some pics to paul_beretta@hotmail.com if you can. Thanks Tiny.
Road Ranger
Posts: 10722
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:21 pm
Location: In a town near you

Post by Tiny »

beretta wrote:Yeah, when I get one I would like it installed by someone who knows what they're doin.....so I won't be putting it in! Anyway email some pics to paul_beretta@hotmail.com if you can. Thanks Tiny.
email sent
If the above post did not offend you in any way please PM me so I can try harder!!
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest