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mud tyre debate

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mud tyre debate

Post by planb »

what are peoples opinions on which mud tyre type works best

the skinny simex type tyre, that digs down for traction

or the wide bogger type tyre that floats ???
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Post by robbie »

I have been told by a few to go for skinnies in the mud, so they dig straight the hard shit
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Post by grimbo »

i like the tall skinny (34 x 9.5 swampers) for victorian conditions it tends to cut thru the goo for traction, cleans well and handles on road as well without putting huge amounts of stress on the drivetrain
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Post by bj on roids »

it totally depends on your vehicle

for a heavy vehicle you want to sink and get that traction so for a heavy vehicle, your skinnies are the go

for a light vehicle the fatties keep it afloat

for a big horsepower vehicle, cause it can spin up the bigger fats, then thats a go

for a gutless car, dont go anywhere near the mud
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Post by BeZeRK »

i like the new dunlop roadgrippers... all the NPWS cars are using them so they must be the bomb! :finger:
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Post by hypo »

bj on roids wrote:it totally depends on your vehicle

for a heavy vehicle you want to sink and get that traction so for a heavy vehicle, your skinnies are the go

for a light vehicle the fatties keep it afloat

for a big horsepower vehicle, cause it can spin up the bigger fats, then thats a go

for a gutless car, dont go anywhere near the mud


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Post by Zookymatt »

grimbo wrote:cut thru the goo for traction


It not only depends on your vehicle but also on the type of mud you're in. Graham makes the point that the tall & skinny's work in Vic because there is a hard base to dig down to. Sydney is a bit of a mixed bag. Some areas nearly always have a hard base, like Menai, whereas some other areas you'll be hitting China before you get any traction. I'm not sure what they have in Queensland, Ruff??

I prefer wider tyres in Sydney from what I've seen work, I've personally never driven on skinny's.

If the NPWS chooses the Roadgrippers, then they must be the best!! Where do I buy some? :lol:

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Post by 2car »

bj on roids wrote:it totally depends on your vehicle

for a heavy vehicle you want to sink and get that traction so for a heavy vehicle, your skinnies are the go

for a light vehicle the fatties keep it afloat

for a big horsepower vehicle, cause it can spin up the bigger fats, then thats a go

for a gutless car, dont go anywhere near the mud


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Post by Wooders »

The yanks that are into mud seriously seem to recommend tall skinnies (like Q78 or 38x12.5) usually of the TSL variety for the front and big fats at the back Bogger style......Oh yeah mix plenty of grunt...
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Post by onall4 »

Go for a Narrower Tyre for mud thats only about 1 foot deep.
Its all good to be able to cut right down to the bottom for extra traction, But what if it's a bottom less pit then the Skinnies sink much quicker than the wider tyre. Or if the mud is a little deeper than your diff clearance allows, as well as your chassi your fuqked...

I Prefer a bit of floatation (width) especially for the heavier vehicles.

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Post by derangedrover »

onall4 wrote:I Prefer a bit of flirtation (width) especially for the heavier chicks.

Pete

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Post by onall4 »

derangedrover wrote:
onall4 wrote:I Prefer a bit of flirtation (width) especially for the heavier chicks.

Pete

:shock:


I stand to correct you.

I prefer a liitle extra flotation of the tits, & a little less width of the rear 1/4 panels.
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Post by redrocket »

onall4 wrote:
derangedrover wrote:
onall4 wrote:I Prefer a bit of flirtation (width) especially for the heavier chicks.

Pete

:shock:


I stand to correct you.

I prefer a liitle extra flotation of the tits, & a little less width of the rear 1/4 panels.


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Post by Pesky Pete »

My Humble 20C Worth

I was out wheeling in my 80 series, with two other 80 series and a GQ Patrol. 3 of us were running Wrangler MTR's and one Yoko MTR's. As mine is a newer 80 it runs 16" rims and as such 11" wide Wranglers. Can't get a 12.5 MTR for 16" rim YET (But soon I hear)

Anyway, in the mud I got through all of the muddy bits, and the guys with the 12.5" Wranglers got snatched. The other car in our group that got throguh all the mud without snatching was the 80 running the Yoko's. Both cars with the 12.5 Wranglers needed a snatch.

So maybe there is something in the fat versus skinny debate, and I just thought I drove better on the day LOL

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Post by Jeeps »

As long as it's skinnier and has deep lugs and sidewalls with good self cleaning abilities like the simex's, it's generally better. The really gooey, slip-sliding clay sh*t that leaves big massive chunks all over your roof that you can't sink-in to get traction needs a wider tyre, or so i'm told...


Highway terrains suck because they can't "sink" and "bite in" to the harder stuff below.
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