4 spd top loader

Post by **yella_rangie** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:29 am

i amthinking of puttin a 351 or similar into my rangie. can any 4 spd manual boxes be mated up to the transfer in these? i want to use the original transfer but i want to use like a top loader box. also if anyone has done this mod where abouts does the shifter end up in the cab? does it end up further back? thanks

Post by **Loanrangie** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:49 pm

The rangie 4spd will be strong enough. You would need someone to make a new extension housing for the top loader to mate it to an lt230 or mdified lt95 which would be expensive. There was a post of Sam or Ruff using a b/w 4spd box from a ford f series i think ? Could use this to mate a ford v8 to.

Post by **F'n_Rover** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:28 pm

why not mate the top loader to a series transfer case. added bonus of part time 4wd. easier to do this than adapt a 351 to a lt95. (unless there is a kit already)

Website · Post by **Maggot4x4** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:11 pm

I think the mog runs a T18

Post by **modman** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:31 pm

there was a guy that organised short course racing up north that had a series 2 or 3 with ford v8, toploader and series transfer.
good combination but hard to get decent low ratio compared to other rover stuff(lt230,lt77,r380,lt95)
still a very strong combination though.
i think his ute was in 4wd monthly a few years back.
david.
(series transfer-mmmmm,donuts

)

Post by **Daisy** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:26 am

Maggot4x4 wrote:I think the mog runs a T18

the mog runs a np208 t/case with the ford 4 speed out of the broncos

Post by **Bush65** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:46 am

GQ wrote:
Maggot4x4 wrote:I think the mog runs a T18
the mog runs a np208 t/case with the ford 4 speed out of the broncos

Before Sam fitted the mog axles, he did have a T18 to a modified LT95 transfer case (most of LT95 gear case removed and modified mainshaft).

IIRC this combination is still running in someone elses truck/buggy.

Post by **Ralf the RR** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:10 pm

I'm a Ford nut, (still have my XE ESP 351 4sp) and have always wanted a Ford V8 powered RR. There is not a lot of demand, so there are no kits available. I couldn't force myself to fit Holden stuff (yes I know the 3.5 is a Buick).
Personally I'd go an auto with a 351, even though I only drive manuals.
It would be far smoother. Plenty of torque. Plenty of acceleration. Smoother changes (won't break drive train). The only drawback would be on descents.

Post by **yella_rangie** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:50 pm

ive been thinkin about this...i used to have a disco V8 that was an auto. and id have to say it did have its advantages. alot easier to crawl over things than burning the ring out of a clutch! im thinking an auto would be alot easier on the whole driveline to....would that be correct?

Post by **modman** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:45 pm

yes the auto is easier on the drivetrain.
avm in melb. raced a rangie with zf in winch challenges and obc'c for years.
things can be done to strengthen the auto, and the lock up/convertor can be played with as well.
there is info in the general section
david

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:16 pm

modman wrote:there was a guy that organised short course racing up north that had a series 2 or 3 with ford v8, toploader and series transfer.
good combination but hard to get decent low ratio compared to other rover stuff(lt230,lt77,r380,lt95)
still a very strong combination though.
i think his ute was in 4wd monthly a few years back.
david.
(series transfer-mmmmm,donuts )

That was Glen. He has a SIII with the specs as above - ford V8, top loader, series T-case. Went well, and aparently the ford box can handle quick gearchanges, unlike the LT95. He used to be on here as v8grunt, but haven't heard from him for a while.

Post by **F'n_Rover** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:51 pm

wasn't he running a suffix "b" transfer case ?
i dont know much about these but thought they had lower low range gears?

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:24 pm

popeye wrote:wasn't he running a suffix "b" transfer case ?
i dont know much about these but thought they had lower low range gears?

Sort of, like a few of us he runs suffix B low range gears in a later model case.

The std. SIIA/SIII low range is 2.5:1. For a few hundred $$$ you can buy the intermediate and low range gears for a suffix B case (new) and do the conversion. The suffix B gears are 2.8:1 (but suffix B and earlier gearboxes had higher ratios so the overall low was the same).

Do not use suffix A gears as the intermediate shaft is smaller.

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