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thoughts on 40 series ?

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thoughts on 40 series ?

Post by cookie monster »

hi everyone,
dont usually post in the toyota section as i run a pajero, so hi to everyone.
my daughter is looking at buying a 40 series and i was wondering what you guys thought of the vehicle we have seen.
its a 1984 42 series swb hardtop.
factory 5 speed
factory air cond
3.4 diesel, 325,000km
rear wheel carrier
new starter motor and glow plugs
uhf radio and stereo
body looks pritty good with some small area's of rust hear and there.
interior looks nice and clean with factory tachometer and resonable seats.
front springs look very 'flat' ? with only about an inch of travel before bumpstops. is this normal ?
drives ok, noisy and bouncy, but i guess they are all like that ?
the car has done very little in the last ten years, as the owner passed away and his dad kept it for sentimental reasons, using it for variaty club bashes.
he is asking $3000.
if we kept it a few years and fixed it up do you think it would lose much money on it if we sold it?
any comments would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by Stackson45 »

For that price it sounds good - i don't think you'll lose much money if any, as a very good condition one of those still gets $5000-6000.
And air con!.....
Flat springs fairly standard as they get older, if it's only noisy and bouncy you've got a good one. If it's jet engine loud at speed and bucks your back teeth out when you go near a bump then your driving the dream baby!. Or maybe my troopy is a one-off....
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Post by 45punkbus »

yeah sounds fair good to me as well,

i drive a troopy as well and i can tell you, yours is not the only one with those symptoms stackson45 :armsup:
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Post by scotto »

Hey it 'reads' ok to me. If it drives allright no strange noises and body etc in reasonable shape for sure. The motors go forever but beware, a 40 can be a lot of work! If kept in good nick it will hold it's value kinda sorta and be a good reliable truck.

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Post by bj42turbo »

Sounds very good, a '84 hey the last of the real Landcruisers and with all the luxurys like a five speed and power steering :D

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Post by plowy »

mate i bought my 42 series 82 mod 4 speed lx cruiser for $7500 without rego your gettin it for a steal
just a small thing the 3.4 /3b is no race motor but with a regular oil change at every 5000km it will go forever
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Post by Busiboy »

Don't get it,

Just tell me where it is ;)

Nah sounds sweet to me, if you put a 2inch lift kit and some (I like them) ranchos in you might just cure your sag and bounce issues.

All in all sounds like a sweet truck though.

PS Earmuffs and above mentioned mods will make it a dream to drive like you pajero ;)
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Post by DIRTY ROCK STAR »

As busiboy said above....
DONT BUY IT!!!

for 3K i would take it if it were a bit closer to me.

I would go there now, give him 3K and drive off laughing.

as everyone said no race car, but its solid, reliable, cheap to fix or do up, plenty of fibreglass panels around.
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Post by Shadow »

sounds like a bargain to me

i was strugling to find a roadworthy diesel 40 for less than 5grand back when i was looking.!
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Post by bad_religion_au »

sounds good... just make sure your daughter knows how to drive to compensate for body roll, and 20 year old brakes :D
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Post by cookie monster »

thanks for your coments guys, much appreciated.

one thing that seams strange is that it doesnt have power steering ! some info i read on them stated that the later ones had it ? anyway we are still trying to convince mum that it is a good buy ! my daughter is only 12 so its not as if she will be driving it for a while ! plan was to slowly do it up, then she could learn in it.
she wants spotties on the roof, lift kit, bucket seats, double diff locks, power steering, hot pink camouflage paintwork !! etc, so it will cost me a packet !!!!!!!
trouble is i quite fancy it myself ! will have to talk the work boss into selling the ute i drive, so i would have to buy a car then !!
anyway thanks again and will let you all know if we do get it.
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Post by bumpy »

your daughter will want a decent set of arms on her if it hasn't got power steering.....

not too bad once your going, but at slow speeds you certainly know your steering an old truck :)

unless you keep a set of skinnies on it.....or you could always do a conversion.

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Post by 45punkbus »

she is only 12 and wants all those mods, i only found out half a year ago what mods i want on mine, by the time she gets her p's i can see a tuff truck contestant :armsup:
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Post by beanz2 »

Power steering was an option in the 1979+ models. You can also fit a power steering unit off a solid axle Hilux with a custom made bracket to adapt it to the frame attachment pod. Do a search on this forum, I think there was a post or two that described it.

Like the others said, it is a good deal.

It sounds like you want it for yourself :D But, hey, whatever it takes to get it past the missus.

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Post by bad_religion_au »

power steering can also be done using 60 series components, a bit more work involved but better if your planning on running hugeish tires
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Post by bj42turbo »

Yeah I thought it would have had power steering as standard. I just assumed it was a LX, still sounds a very worthwile buy but surely you must have snapped it up by now
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Post by croozy »

go for it man
it's never a problem until it can't be fixed, even then it' only a minor set back
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Post by Robbo171 »

yeah definaly buy it!!1
i own an 82 LX SWB
and they all make noises,some rattles you'll get used to it
oh and they are THE BEST 4X4 ever made!
mines a factoery 5speed,power steer but has no aircon...arrr wish mine had aircon specially here in WA
i used to have a 78 4speed ,drums all round with no power steer..that was my intro into the 40 series world..
i'll never sell mine ;)
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Post by Hellbelly »

Air con aint all its cracked up to be. My Bj's got it along with power stear, 5 speed box and all above mentioned rattles and shakes but the air really struggles to do anything on a hot day. Nothing like uising the pop out vents at your feet anyway. Geeze people laugh when they see me pop em out and tell em it air con. :lol:

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Post by droopypete »

Aw shucks, this tread has made me miss my old 40 :cry:
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Post by bj42turbo »

Hellbelly wrote:Air con aint all its cracked up to be. My Bj's got it along with power stear, 5 speed box and all above mentioned rattles and shakes but the air really struggles to do anything on a hot day. Nothing like uising the pop out vents at your feet anyway. Geeze people laugh when they see me pop em out and tell em it air con. :lol:

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Yeah mine had air con when i bought it but I found the same problems as you experienced it is now proberly sitting under about 1km of rubbish at the tip

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Post by shorty_f0rty »

my aircon gets a thorough workout now as on board air.. every weekend it gets a good working over..
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Post by Robbo171 »

mine's also got new door rubbers,bailey channel rubbers...so with all that its still not worth me fitting aircon?
i've also blanked off the holes in the floor from some nobhead bolting shit,also small little rust holes here n there and fitted new seals to the side vents and heater fan box.
and yes...those side vents work a treat on your feet on a hot day... :)
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Post by bj42turbo »

When mine was a hard top I even tryed putting up a clear pvc screen behind the front seats fiited to a cargo barrier. Thinking this would make less area for the air con to cool still not really very sucessfull

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Post by matt.mcinnes »

bj42turbo wrote:When mine was a hard top I even tryed putting up a clear pvc screen behind the front seats fiited to a cargo barrier. Thinking this would make less area for the air con to cool still not really very sucessfull

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Air Con is the first thing to go, The pump is far more useful as an air compressor for constant air. Drive faster with the windows down and the roof off, now thats air con :rofl: Oh and open the side vents too.
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Post by Hellbelly »

Hey Matt. I've been told about the air being converted to just an air compressor. How hard is this to do?

@BJ 42 Turbo. Nice to see you again. You helped me out with a little advise in another 4x4 forum a year or two (I still cant afford a turbo tho :cry: ).

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Post by shorty_f0rty »

heres the onboard air thread for converting aircon to air compressor
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Post by bj42turbo »

matt.mcinnes wrote: The pump is far more useful as an air compressor for constant air.
Yeah I wish I realised this before mine went to the tip :oops:

G'day Hellbelly, Mmmm turbo ;)

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Post by matt.mcinnes »

bj42turbo wrote:
matt.mcinnes wrote: The pump is far more useful as an air compressor for constant air.
Yeah I wish I realised this before mine went to the tip :oops:

G'day Hellbelly, Mmmm turbo ;)

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Post by matt.mcinnes »

Hellbelly wrote:Hey Matt. I've been told about the air being converted to just an air compressor. How hard is this to do?

@BJ 42 Turbo. Nice to see you again. You helped me out with a little advise in another 4x4 forum a year or two (I still cant afford a turbo tho :cry: ).

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