100 Series IFS Lift

Post by **BUNDERA** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 7:50 pm

The IFS setup on my dad's 100 series is not holding up with the weight of his bullbar and 9000i Warn Winch.
What can he do to lift it back up so it sits a little more above stock?

I dont have a clue about ifs setups...(only coil)... so I thought I would ask the people in the know

Any ideas will be most appreciated.

Regards,
Nick

Post by **Punchy** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 8:23 pm

Get stronger suspension conponents to increase the hieght
namely get stronger torsion bars

Post by **LOCKY** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:27 am

PM for details at Procomp Melbourne

Cheers

Jason

Post by **BUNDERA** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 9:02 am

Who makes the stronger torsion bars, kings or ome?

Do these companies guarantee lift like they do with coils?

Cheers,
Nick

Post by **BUNDERA** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:10 pm

All right we have decided to crank the torsion bars to see how much lift we can get with the stock ones fitted.

Are there any tips when doing this?

Thanks, Any info is most appreciated.

Regards,
Nick

Post by **Beaast_paj** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 1:05 pm

yep, cut your lower bump stops and fit low pfofile mounting bolts for them. This is just like the pajero way I think.

Post by **BUNDERA** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 4:30 pm

Thanks for the response Beast_paj but he is trying to lift the vehicle, not increase wheel travel.

Thanks anyway.

Regards,
Nick

Post by **BeZeRK** » Thu May 01, 2003 7:18 pm

when we fit the 2" OME lift kits on these we simply wind up the torsion bars... ill get back to you with approx how many turns..

they work fine wound up and definatly dont cut your bumpstops!!!!

do a few winds at first then bounce the front of the car and measure, then just adjust as suited!

Post by **Bitsamissin** » Sat May 03, 2003 1:17 pm

You don't need new torsion bars as the vehicle is not too old (unless it has been hit). Cutting your bumpstops (the ones that limit downward travel) will allow the same wheel travel after cranking the torsion bars for a lift. On a Poojero you can get about 2" of lift but the A arm is resting on the upper bumpstops, cutting them will give you back your downwards wheel travel.
If the bars are sagged you can re-index the spline to gain even greater lift not too many suspension places will do this let alone know about it they only want to sell you a knew set of torsion bars.
I did this on mine but after a heavy offroad hit the right side sagged dramatically so I replaced them with Pedders bars, 25% higher spring rating than stock.
The only issue for a 100 Series IFS is the constant 4x4 will accelerate the wear rates of CV's and boots if it is lifted too high above standard.

Post by **ToNkA** » Sat May 03, 2003 1:37 pm

You lost Frank?

:finger:

Post by **BUNDERA** » Sun May 04, 2003 6:29 pm

Thanks for the advice.

Bezerk it would be great if u could tell me the number of winds.

He is now enquiring about lifting the whole truck not just evening out the front. 2" all round and cranking the torsion bars to even up the front.

Do OME make a kit if so how many $$ and will he need new shocks (longer travels) after fitting the new springs? Does the kit have stronger torsion bars?

Cheers,
NICK

Post by **Beaast_paj** » Wed May 28, 2003 10:09 am

See I told you stoners that you cut the bump stops NOT to get wheel travel neccessarily but to allow you to wind the torsion bars up more!!!! :roll:

Just crank the poofters up as far as you can. I did it on my mates IFS hilux the other day and it is now up there and still rides awesome. Shit flex if any but.

Post by **bj on roids** » Wed May 28, 2003 12:10 pm

Beaast_paj wrote:See I told you stoners that you cut the bump stops NOT to get wheel travel neccessarily but to allow you to wind the torsion bars up more!!!!

Just crank the poofters up as far as you can. I did it on my mates IFS hilux the other day and it is now up there and still rides awesome. Shit flex if any but.

typical hilux!!!

hey but what they dont have in the flex department they sure make up for with the powerhouse they put into them :lol:

NOT

but they are reliable with good economy!

Post by **Juzza** » Wed May 28, 2003 7:53 pm

BUNDERA wrote:Thanks for the advice.

Bezerk it would be great if u could tell me the number of winds.

He is now enquiring about lifting the whole truck not just evening out the front. 2" all round and cranking the torsion bars to even up the front.

Do OME make a kit if so how many $$ and will he need new shocks (longer travels) after fitting the new springs? Does the kit have stronger torsion bars?

Cheers,
NICK

IFS 100 Series don't have droop limiting bump stops anyway. The droop is limited by the shock absorbers. :shock:

If he is going to lift the whole vehicle, then wait and do the front adjustment when the new rear coils go in. If not then measure with a tape the distance from the front guard lip to the bottom of the wheel rim and note measurments for both sides. Then wind each torsion bar adjuster clockwise until the desired height is acheived. Fitting a steel bar and winch ( xd9000 or similar ) to a 100 usually knocks about 10-20 mm off the front ride height. I would reccommend not lifting the front much above what it would have been before bar&winch fitment if you still have standard shocks. You can get a small amount of lift out of these IFS's before running into problems such as shock absorber excess top-out and lack of wheel align adjustment but to be honest they were never designed to be lifted and/or off-roaded.

Post by **BeZeRK** » Fri May 30, 2003 8:52 pm

cutting bumpstops will allow your CVs to work at angles futher than designed and is NOT good.

As to how many winds, its differant with every car, prob start with 2 and see how much it goes, its quite easy to do, but use some rost off on the nuts first to lube them up a bit.

We install Old man emu kits at my work, they include 2 rear springs and 4 shocks, and the front is just wound up, they do have torsion bars but they are not nessacary unless they are pretty fucked (old)...

Post by **BeZeRK** » Fri May 30, 2003 8:55 pm

Juzza, not ment to be offroaded.... Maybe not a tuff truck, but still a damn good tourer as such... whack in some lockers and they will still go a long way!!

oh, forgot, were all hardcore Cookie here, forgot sorry!

Post by **Beaast_paj** » Sun Jun 01, 2003 3:21 pm

Nice logo dude!!!!!!!!!!!

WRANGLER stuff kicks arse 8)

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