plasma rope

Post by **adrian** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 3:52 pm

how much is it and where do you buy it ?

Fri Jun 20, 2003 6:32 pm

9mm is $16 per metre.

I was quoted that the other day. Any 4x4 shop should be able to get it in.

Post by **Drafty** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 8:41 pm

Which state are you in Adrian?

Post by **adrian** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:42 pm

iam in WA

Post by **mickrangie** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 11:34 pm

But it from Janrak Equipment
03 9877 8378
janrak@aol.com

$16 per mtr for 9mm is way too much I got 8mm for $11 and a few mates got 11mm for $15 a mtr. I would go the 11m and get max of 40 mtrs for a high mount.

HTH

Mick

Post by **Drafty** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 9:34 am

Most comp cars use 9mm, 50m on our Hi Mount.

If your not in a hurry ther is a similar product coming out shortly which is cheaper, don't have any details on it though.

Post by **mickrangie** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 3:09 pm

I can't remember which 4x4 vid it was some guys used the 'cheaper' version of plasma rope and it just kept breaking.... i guess it's like to old saying goes you get what you pay for.

my 3 cents
Mick

Post by **spazbot** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 5:22 pm

im looking at getting some master-pull super line from the states
it looks pretty good, has anyone haerd any more bout it

http://www.masterpull.com/item.cfm?itemid=9167

Post by **Drafty** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 7:48 pm

At the OBC the Alaskans were using the green rope which l think will be around soon, they had no breakages but yes "you get what you pay for" is true in most cases.

Joe

Post by **ALPINE-OFF-ROAD** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:18 pm

Well i have been on the hunt and have found found a similar product to plasma. so far it is identical a little bit stronger if any thing
i will be selling this product if it turns out ok for about $ 8.50 per meter
i will keep you all posted as soon as it hits the country
also avaliable hook/clasp lock, heat sleave for drum , splicing

Post by **ALPINE-OFF-ROAD** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:46 pm

9 mm is the comp spec as far a vic events go
and price is not always an indication of quality
i have and do use plasma
and i wil be comparing this new rope against it
the above mentioned price is for the 9 mm to

Post by **mickrangie** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:57 pm

If you need someone to test i am yr man!! I have broken my plasma rope 3 times... (damn gum trees)
What are the specs for the other plasma rope you are talking about vs the current plasma??? It will be interesting to see if the market become s flooded with different plasma ropes what the price will do....

Post by **ALPINE-OFF-ROAD** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:04 am

well the specs are almost identical just a different manufacture i will have a better idear tomorrow when i am handed the full specs as i see so far its almost 500 kg stronger same elongation %at break same weight mmmm different colour lol lol
and well i have broken it to(plasma that is )and im sure living over the road from rocky trak i can get lots of test hrs in lol lol lol ty for the offer maybe you come u get stuck and ill pull u out hehehehehe :lol:

Post by **spazbot** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:36 am

hayden whats it called its not the master pull stuff is it ?
if it is i might be pretty keen, sounds like the same stuff, with the heat protector for the drum

Post by **ALPINE-OFF-ROAD** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:26 pm

hay how ya doin

no its not the mater pull stuff but i did look at that site that was put up
i have the heat sleave stuff now, as i use it as a rock protector on my plasma rope it is heat and abrasaion proof stuff i use

the meeting was postponed till tomorrow so i dont have the full specs for you guys yet

Post by **greg** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:50 pm

Hi Hayden,

I'm just wondering if there's any updates on this 'plasma rope' you were getting in?

Costs? Thickness? Rating etc.

thanks

Post by **Singo17** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 12:56 am

Just thought I would clear some stuff up on Plasma or that type of rope.

There is a Company in Europe that makes a product called Dyneema. This material is by wieght the strongest material man made. It is used for many applications.

One of them is rope. They have a factory in the US. Tertiary companies flog this rope as whatever name it is given. There maybe some different specs on the tope but that might be due to different maximum safe working load tollerances used by the reseller or they are marketing a slightly differently designed rope.

But it should be made outta the same base product Dyneema.

http://www.dsm.com/en_US/html/hpf/home_dyneema.htm

I did all this research about 6 months ago when I was looking at key differences from wire to rope.

Hope it helps when deciding.

Post by **roly** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 12:15 pm

i am about tp buy plasma cos i cant wait any longer for the new sh1te :(

i heard he is having issues with the new stuff.

Post by **ToNkA** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:42 pm

I am picking mine up in the states, 9.5mm (there abouts in metric) 125' for $300.

Post by **DiscoDino** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:16 pm

Got my 3/8"x100' for 170USD from www.rockstomper.com

Post by **Bush65** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:26 pm

Most on pirate recommend Rockstomper for winch rope. This rope is a product from Samson Rope Technologies.

Some rope details are:
Amsteel Blue product code 872 - coated
12 strand single braid, HMPE fibre
For 3/8" dia - avg strength 20445 lbs, weight 3.6 lbs per 100 ft.

There are 2 Australian agents for Samson Rope Technologies (both in WA):
Sling Rig Pty Ltd, Kewdale (08) 9451 8133
TJF EBC (WA) Pty Ltd, Welshpool (08) 9358 2888

I don't know if they stock Amsteel Blue, someone might like to contact them and let us all know.

Post by **XTREME MMM** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:53 pm

back again, in my Xtreme Events (winch challenge) only Plasma 12 strand is allowed and it has to be 11mm. Any other competitor who wishes to enter one of the Xtreme events, that wants to use another brand of synthetic rope has to supply me with test figures & specs on the rope before I will allow it.

Hope this is of some help to you. If you are in WA get onto the Australian importer Jeyco (International?) and talk to Simon & he will be able to help you out.

Regards David (MMM)

Post by **Drafty** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:56 pm

XTREME MMM wrote::lol: back again, in my Xtreme Events (winch challenge) only Plasma 12 strand is allowed and it has to be 11mm. Any other competitor who wishes to enter one of the Xtreme events, that wants to use another brand of synthetic rope has to supply me with test figures & specs on the rope before I will allow it.

Hope this is of some help to you. If you are in WA get onto the Australian importer Jeyco (International?) and talk to Simon & he will be able to help you out.

Regards David (MMM)

Why arent you accepting smaller rope than 11mm

Post by **tony cordell** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:35 am

The base material for all the plasma style ropes is the same
the treatments are the only difference.
Plasma 12 from Puget Sound ropes in the US has a lower breaking strain than the Amsteel blue by some 3000lbs!
Dyneema range these are sailing ropes marketed under the dynex range.

I have stumped for Amsteel blue from Rockstomper in the states and have to wait for my courier to collect it, A saving of £180 over the uk prices.

Post by **Zac Zec** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 8:34 am

Adrian, in Perth you can buy 50m of 11mm Dynamax plasma rope for $470. Talk to Cass Jones
Cheers
Zac

Post by **XTREME MMM** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 11:47 am

The reason for 11mm Plasma ia it just ups the safety level a lot more & it will last longer. Do not forget in one Xtreme Winch Challenge you would winch more than the average person would do in a year. And it is only about 50 cents more, not much extra to pay for a safer rope & one that lasts longer.

Regards David (MMM)

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