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dellow vs marks

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dellow vs marks

Post by hillbilly »

Arvo,
Am after some opinions on these types of bellhousing/adaptors. I'm transplanting a holden 304 into a gu coil cab. If anyone has been throuigh this, any help would be appriciated. Don't quote me on this but Dellow are around $500 , while Marks are pushing a grand. What gives?? :?:
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Post by bru21 »

marks stuff is marginal at best. I have bought 3 kits, they work but i feel they could be better finished, more accurate, better informed etc.
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Post by hillbilly »

marks stuff is marginal at best. I have bought 3 kits, they work but i feel they could be better finished, more accurate, better informed etc.

gday bru,
were these kits easy to install and how about clearences.....eg.engine to firewall...sump to steering rods etc...etc. More accurate :?:
Meaning what exactly.
cheers
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Post by chimpboy »

I have been 100% happy with gear from Dellow, which in my case has been a bellhousing to fit a supra 5-speed gearbox behind a jag V12, plus a reco'd gearbox that was very nicely done. Others seem to bag Dellow sometimes but I don't know if they have actually bought anything from them, or if they are just talking through their arses.

But when comparing prices be careful that you know exactly what you are getting. The bellhousing is just one thing, and engine mounts, electrical adaptors/looms/etc, and other necessary items may be included in one price but not the other.

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Post by bru21 »

the marks fit on my bundera g52 to 350 late was perfect and all good, the fit was ok but it was to be expected as its a hilux kit. the information is just plain shit and needs to be thrown as it just make the situation worse. 90% of the instructions is either incorrect like (needs new sump as diff will hit - not even close) or in the wrong order and you asseble something and have to take it off to do the next step.

the gen 3 kit is just the worst thing i have ever seen in this game bar nothing. I am genuinly concerned that i will regret the kit after the first day of the obc. the spigot shaft is machined too deep and a plug is pressed into it to stop end float - how bogdge it that! the centre bearing that holds the spigot and the release bearing extension has around 6mm of freeplay and needs to be aligned by guess, as it is a blind fit. the slide bearing is held on by 4 bolts. that shits me the centre bearing should press in and rely on the casting dowels for alignment. if the stupid spider web of ally stress cracks it will throw the entire rotating setup out.

it was that bad that i was thinking of sending it back and doing it myself bubs style. the instructions as to what plate, flywheel etc left me unsure if each step was right. the fittings for the oil gague etc are all good and well but why would i want a nissan sender on a chev - they would run at different temps and you know a temp gague is set to indicate at degrees close to that engine not a chev. the bellhousing missed some vital bolt holes, had 20mm holes through the side that let shit into the clutch and were supplied in s/steel notr high tensile as well as being no automotive heads meaning i have to carry 2 more spanners in the toolkit. i am sure s/steel is good in the vibration and constant movement of its job not to mention heat cycling etc where it expands twice as much as steel :roll: :roll:

i made my own body mounts too.

what shits me the most is that many people cannot afford the hidden expenses of such a conversion why do they not say you need custom headers, reprogrammed computer to make it run, that the a/c won't fit, that you need a seperate fuel pump etc as the commodore will not fit ointo a steel tank etc. i my eyes if it were my company i would give away a few free kits for r and d - as soon as a conversion is done find out the steps, where things go, what radiator and hoses are needed etc, part numbers etc. how hard is it really to cut and paste a customers answers into their site or have a forum etc.

the dual cases were ok but they simplify everthing by saying cheezy does a high crossmember etc not saying why. also the circlip had to be filed down and chiseled into position as the maching was .5mm out on the lay shaft.

I would look very hard elsewhere for components first and use them as a last resort.

I am aware of bagging a company on a forum but i know of another disgruntled dual owner and many disgruntled engine conversion owners
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Post by doddzee »

The 3 people i know using marks adapters in NZ to fit 350 chevs to the nissan boxes have all had to get them machined as the centres were out of alignment. Ill be doing the same conversion soon and will be lookin elsewhere.
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Post by ludacris »

I have only used one kit which was a dellows and found them to be very usefull. I found the bell housing was good even down to the bolt holes being perfect thread for the origanel bolts.

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Post by Wendle »

bru21 wrote:I am aware of bagging a company on a forum but i know of another disgruntled dual owner and many disgruntled engine conversion owners
i will never delete a post bagging a company out if it has a clear, concise description of the problems as your post does. if you had of just written "i bought a marks kit, it was shit, don't buy one" i would have deleted it straight away.
i feel that is one thing that is done a bit hastily on this forum, hence you hear over and over again about the same companies ripping people off, or delivering bad service etc. if the posts describing the terrible performance of some of the companies in this game were left for all to read, they would (hopefully) have to lift their game.
if you had of just written "i bought a marks kit, it was shit, don't buy one" i would have deleted it straight away.

my own experiences with marks - bought a set of their transfer gears off them, excellent kit, good instructions, fit and finish was perfect. bought an auto to t/case adapter. was a good product, but waited a couple of months for an item that was "in stock on the shelf" when it arrived i couldn't see where all the money went, but it works well.

my own experience with dellows - bought v8 to manual box bellhousing. arrived in 2 days, no documentation on installation, but awesome service over the phone.
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Post by hillbilly »

wow.. bru :shock:
sounds like you Know your stuff. Thjanks for the info. Might have to get you round with the spanners.....Have a carton or two in the fridge :D
I jumped on one of the two companies web sites and called the other. The info from both were pretty good. Starting to sway towards Dellow though. The price does not really concern me from one to the other, but the "MARKS" unit pushes the whole engine forward 75mm, not to sure how this will affect clearances to the sump?? Whats the go withe engine loom, I'm guessing theres a little re-shuffle of some senders n stuff to adapt the 304 to nissan gauges etc. :?:
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Post by bru21 »

bartso did a 304 to auto in a gq, and he's a sparky so he will be the best to ask!
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