WA Sunrise Park 4x4 Championship 2006

Post by **duncan** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:51 pm

Ill be at ore on feb 5th looks like Steve in the green TJ is going to do the winch comp also hes looking for a partner

Post by **jbell** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:43 pm

Team car or navigator ???????????
If he needs a car I'm up, Landys abit heavier though!!!!!!!

Post by **duncan** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:03 pm

He needs a team car as Bevan is his spotter

Post by **jbell** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:13 pm

Mike said he would be up for my spotter, see what
Steve thinks???????????????

Jeff

Post by **duncan** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:03 pm

Talked to Steve today hes rapped to team up with you and Mike

Post by **cbr** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:04 am

I am hoping to enter. But I have to finish my runner first. I think I can get it done in time, but you never know

When it get's closer to finishing I will be looking for a team member.

Chris.

Post by **duncan** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:47 am

Cool your only problem will be that scrutineering for the winch challenge is on the 5th of Feb at ORE Myarre there are other dates at other places or ring Alan and see if you can get it looked for later as the event isnt untill April

Post by **DeWsE** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:47 am

cbr wrote:I am hoping to enter. But I have to finish my runner first. I think I can get it done in time, but you never know

When it get's closer to finishing I will be looking for a team member.

Chris.

CBR you have been saying this for the last two years.... and I still haven't even seen a progress picture. You are one driver I'll be excited to watch

So you better make this a target

Post by **ausyota** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:35 pm

DeWsE wrote:
cbr wrote:I am hoping to enter. But I have to finish my runner first. I think I can get it done in time, but you never know

When it get's closer to finishing I will be looking for a team member.

Chris.
CBR you have been saying this for the last two years.... and I still haven't even seen a progress picture. You are one driver I'll be excited to watch So you better make this a target

Sounds like me

I too have a nver ending Lux project.
If its is ready I will be competing in the three later comps (not the first winch chalenge) Maybe we should team up if either of us gets our shit together lol.
Paul.

Post by **JEEP1** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:08 pm

im going to enter as many as i can as getting saturdays of is pretty difficult, my old man was going to be my partner he has now pulled out to be apart of the pit crew and just spectate, so im needing a partner aswell.

Post by **jbell** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:08 pm

Better make sure the landy's up to scratch!!!!!!
Dont want Steve to have to wait for me, or heaven forbid
tow me!!!!!!
Looking forward to it already!!!!

Jeff

Post by **duncan** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:49 pm

Ok spoke to Alan this evening he will have a lot of info posted up on the web this weekend but as for what he told me for the winch event you will drive up to a set point then have to winch your way through the rest you can drive but only at the speed of your winch so if the cable gets loose you will be penilised.He wants to run 5 different tracks all at once.Sounds like a couple of Outback Challenge cars will be competing for a shake down run before heading over east .

I told Alan that everyone wants to no what the tyre size will be and classes so he said he will post up very soon as i explained that some people are hanging of building cars as they dont no what the rules are.Also got our point across and he agreed that Aclass might have to be what C class used to be then work up from there.

There very well looks like a busy bee to be held on the long weekend of March so if you can help out be there Alan has already marked out the winch challenge course

Post by **cbr** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:12 am

DeWsE wrote:
cbr wrote:I am hoping to enter. But I have to finish my runner first. I think I can get it done in time, but you never know

When it get's closer to finishing I will be looking for a team member.

Chris.
CBR you have been saying this for the last two years.... and I still haven't even seen a progress picture. You are one driver I'll be excited to watch So you better make this a target

Yea I know it has been a long time coming.

I have just chopped the 4runner in to a ute and am doing a coil rear end suspension.

The pic below is as it stands as of last week.

I thought the first comp is in June

if the first comp is April then I might not make it. Will have to see

Chris.

Post by **Zac Zec** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:35 pm

which OBC cars are running in it? That is going to be boring if you have to sit there and get your winch to pull you around the course. Is this correct? Where's the fun in that?

Post by **ausyota** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:07 pm

Zac Zec wrote:which OBC cars are running in it? That is going to be boring if you have to sit there and get your winch to pull you around the course. Is this correct? Where's the fun in that?

hmmm maybe thats why its called a "winch chalenge"

Of course there has to be winching section

Post by **duncan** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:34 pm

Not sure who the Out back Challenge cars are all Alan said was a GQ was up here in Perth get lots of work done had kevlar pannels owners are from Esperance .As for the winch event hes looking at your skills as to being able to drive to your winch speed to take the load of your winch he didnt want some one to just charge the hill and tear it up for everyonr else.But as my spotter pointed out to me events over east you get bounce points if you can drive a winch section maybe thats the way to go dont no as its Alans event and he will run it as he sees fit

Post by **jeep97tj** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:46 pm

Zac Zec wrote: That is going to be boring if you have to sit there and get your winch to pull you around the course. Is this correct? Where's the fun in that?

dont know im still trying to figure it out, dosent sound very intresting to me either. I still dont see why it is a team event either if all comps are linked to find a individual winner??? but atleast some ones putting in the effort and alot of there spare time to get it all going.

Post by **Zac Zec** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:45 pm

By no stretch of the imagination am i baging Alan for what he is doing. I'm all for conpetioins in WA. I just dont understand the format. Doesnt make sense. The way I understood what duncan was saying is that you have to compulsory winch the whole stage (am i wrong?). You should still be able to have a crack at driving the obsticles, one attempt only, once you stop you winch. The bonus is if you drive it your stage time will be alot less.
Ausyota, I am well aware of how a winch challenge works. Ithink you missed what i was trying to say.

Post by **George Minaides** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:53 pm

I agree with you Zac why winch when you can drive.
But the question is is the comp on still no details on their web site 2 weeks before scruitineering, whats happening

Post by **jeep97tj** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:03 pm

Zac Zec wrote:By no stretch of the imagination am i baging Alan for what he is doing. I'm all for conpetioins in WA. I just dont understand the format. Doesnt make sense. The way I understood what duncan was saying is that you have to compulsory winch the whole stage (am i wrong?). You should still be able to have a crack at driving the obsticles, one attempt only, once you stop you winch. The bonus is if you drive it your stage time will be alot less.
Ausyota, I am well aware of how a winch challenge works. Ithink you missed what i was trying to say.

yer its all good, i wasnt having a go at u

I think its all a bit

too. The more driving the better, anyone can drag there car around a track.

Post by **cbr** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:32 am

duncan wrote:Not sure who the Out back Challenge cars are all Alan said was a GQ was up here in Perth get lots of work done had kevlar pannels owners are from Esperance .As for the winch event hes looking at your skills as to being able to drive to your winch speed to take the load of your winch he didnt want some one to just charge the hill and tear it up for everyonr else.But as my spotter pointed out to me events over east you get bounce points if you can drive a winch section maybe thats the way to go dont no as its Alans event and he will run it as he sees fit

Who does work like this in WA Cass Jones?, who else???

Chirs.

Post by **duncan** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:53 am

I agree guys my personal favorite would be to drive as far as you can one go only then have to winch.I think hes running a 2 car team in only the winch challenge to try to make it farer across the board as your second car might not be as capable as the first it also gets people working together never an easy thing you could get the 2 most capable cars that work piss all over everyone else but guye who cant comunicate with each other or drive to the speed of their winches brings them back to the rest of the feild would also be funny to see a few dummy spits out on the course with lots of yelling.

I did mention to Alan about running cars in the actual championship just by them selves not as a team and he said he would seriously think about it as the nomination forms dont list a team just one car Alan said more details would be posted up this weekend on the web site.

Remember that at scrutineering you need to bring your first aid kit all your recovery gear and also have your fire extingwisher mounted and comp tyres on the car well this is as i read the info on the web site.

More cars the better if we the drivers show good suport this year even if it dosent turn out quite right there may be more sponsers for next year and then the comp will grow can only get better

Post by **jbell** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:56 pm

Its up to all of us to give it a go & do what we can to
make it work, other wise there wont be any comps at all!!!!!
That would be a real bummer.....
Organizers are never going to be able to keep everyone
happy so lets go with the flow & help when we can....

cheers Jeff

Post by **GQ Toy** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:08 pm

cbr wrote:
duncan wrote:Not sure who the Out back Challenge cars are all Alan said was a GQ was up here in Perth get lots of work done had kevlar pannels owners are from Esperance .As for the winch event hes looking at your skills as to being able to drive to your winch speed to take the load of your winch he didnt want some one to just charge the hill and tear it up for everyonr else.But as my spotter pointed out to me events over east you get bounce points if you can drive a winch section maybe thats the way to go dont no as its Alans event and he will run it as he sees fit
Who does work like this in WA Cass Jones?, who else???

Chirs.

Sorry off topic, this car belongs to Ash and his navi is Adrian from here. The guy doing the work on his car has an awesome 'Baja' style buggy. When I find his details I will post them up.
Cheers
Brad

Post by **George Minaides** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:32 pm

Sunday night still no info on the web page
We have to get our cars ready but dont know to what specs

Post by **cbr** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:06 pm

GQ Toy wrote:
cbr wrote:
duncan wrote:Not sure who the Out back Challenge cars are all Alan said was a GQ was up here in Perth get lots of work done had kevlar pannels owners are from Esperance .As for the winch event hes looking at your skills as to being able to drive to your winch speed to take the load of your winch he didnt want some one to just charge the hill and tear it up for everyonr else.But as my spotter pointed out to me events over east you get bounce points if you can drive a winch section maybe thats the way to go dont no as its Alans event and he will run it as he sees fit
Who does work like this in WA Cass Jones?, who else???

Chirs.
Sorry off topic, this car belongs to Ash and his navi is Adrian from here. The guy doing the work on his car has an awesome 'Baja' style buggy. When I find his details I will post them up.
Cheers
Brad

This wouldn't be proformance would it http://www.proformance.com.au/

Chris.

Post by **duncan** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:55 am

Guys I emailed Alan yesterday again telling him to up date the web page as people are getting pissed of cant do any more ring him up your selves

Post by **duncan** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:40 am

Guys a copy of the classes that will be posted up sent to me from Alan

A CLASS; Standard Vehicle with tyre size not exeding 33 inch and suspension
upgrade to suit and able to run factory fitted traction aids. No after
market traction aids or Engine Upgrades. No Off Road Racers or Buggies
Permited in A Class.
B CLASS; Standard Vehicles with tyre size up to 33 inch including suspension
upgrades and after market traction aids. No Off Road Racers or Buggies in
this class. Engine upgrades not permitted.
C CLASS; Vehicles fitted with tyres over 33 inch and suspension upgrade to
suit with no engine modifications or after market traction aids, no OFF ROAD
RACERS or BUGGIES in this class.
D CLASS: All vehicles not covered in Classes A,B,C, this allows for engine
modifications, after market traction controls, off road racers and buggies.
ALL VEHICLES THAT HAVE AFTER MARKET TRACTION AIDS WILL BE COUNTED AS A MOD
AND EFFECT YOUR CLASSIFICATION REGARDLESS WETHER YOU USE THEM OR NOT.

Post by **duncan** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:53 am

Guys just some answers to questions that Ipassed onto Alan that he has sent back

All competitors including navigators must be members of a club for insurance

Fiber glass roofed cars dont need to wear helmets so long as roof is properly fitted also they dont need a roll cage

All events are not timed as this would cost more for insurance

You need to enter as a team not go looking for a second vehicle on the day

Championship is a teams event and you have to self recover vehicles

Alan is not going to worry about listing who is competing so there will be no info on the Night owl web page as to who are the enterants

Hope this helps some of you guys out i went onto the web sight this morning and it still isnt updated I believe Alan is passing the info onto who ever is running the web site but their just not up dating it

Post by **bazooked** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:12 am

great looks like we will be competing against buggies...

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