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How long are your rear shocks?

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How long are your rear shocks?

Post by Maggot4x4 »

What is the open lenght of everyones rear shocks? Mine are 700 with only a 2" lift.
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Post by walker »

How about also stating what it is on and whether you are using standard mounts.
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Post by mangie »

700 :shock: Are you using the full stroke ?

Mine are "only" 655 and I aint used all mine. I have mine on a Rangie and the mounts are raised(as any shock this long would have to be). I have a 2 inch spring lift and about 2.3 inch body lift with 35's, on full up travel I scrub hard. I believe this is because the trailing arms are yet to be cranked (to be done this weekend)

What shocks are they anyway and any chance of a pic of these shocks in action? I'll show you mine if you show me yours :D
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Post by walker »

Do you think it is necessary to crank the trailing arms with only a 2" lift? how are you planning to do this?

My tyres do get anywhere near rubbing (35's) but that probably show that my springs are way too hard.
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Post by DaveS3 »

walker wrote: My tyres do get anywhere near rubbing (35's) but that probably show that my springs are way too hard.
Or your bumpstops are set correctly :cool:

Not every lift is what it is said to be :x
Just look at the bush, if you can see that the rubber/metal ring is not sitting flush with the mount then it is overstressed, or going to limit travel

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Post by mangie »

Hell yeah, my bushes are under compression just sitting you only have to look at it to see that it's limiting downward travel.

I'll draw a picture of what I'm doing with my trailing arms, scan it and PM you the picture(I'm not keen on posting it as my skills as an artist are limited, and I'm not real good at accepting criticism if the idea sucks)
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Post by Slunnie »

I'm running a 4" lift and 10" shocks which are 655 open. Bump stops lengthened to suit also. Thats on a Disco2.
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Post by mangie »

Slunnie, are you using all your shocks travel? And have you cranked you arms?

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Post by cloughy »

mangie wrote:Slunnie, are you using all your shocks travel? And have you cranked you arms?

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Different style of bush so not needed, if i remember correctly
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Post by Slunnie »

mangie wrote:Slunnie, are you using all your shocks travel? And have you cranked you arms?

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The Disco 2 runs an eye type bush at the chassis rather than the pin style in the rear and front, so there is no need to crank them. When articulating it doesn't use the full 10" travel on the rear as the rates are 300-340lb/in with radius arm type links. The fronts which are 230lb/in use just shy of the full travel.

I'm actually not a believer in bending them at all as I think it produces a weakness in the link that will always be there even with gussetting. I've seen too many rear links fail when used hard. Why don't people use HD link and offset bushes at the chassis? I've not seen any cranked front radius arms though.
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Post by mangie »

I think when mine are finished they will be HD :lol:

Offset bushes ? I've never seen them, who sells them?

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Post by Slunnie »

Graeme Cooper sells them apparently. They're just bush mounts that tilt the chassis bush down a bit. I assume others would sell them also. They fit the rear mounts, though I'm not sure about the front.
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Post by Slunnie »

Here we are. A rear link spacer. The plate below are machined to an uneven thickness which causes the downward tilt.
www.lrexpert.com.au wrote:Rear link spacer - (RLS)
This spacer kit will help the rear link bush from being torn apart if the vehicle has had taller rear springs fitted. The kit comes with everything needed to fit onto the vehicle $98.50


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Post by 6.5 rangie »

I've not seen any cranked front radius arms though



HSV Rangie has cranked front arms
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Post by PSI250 »

LRA also do something similar -

http://www.lrautomotive.com.au/151.html

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Post by mangie »

PSI250 wrote:LRA also do something similar -

http://www.lrautomotive.com.au/151.html

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Yeh, I've seen those but wouldn't the front bush still be compressed at the top?
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Post by walker »

Looks a bit neater than my "3 washers on top and 1 on the bottom" style rear link spacer. :lol: :lol:

But then mine only cost 10 cents :armsup:
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Post by Maggot4x4 »

mangie wrote:700 :shock: Are you using the full stroke ?

Mine are "only" 655 and I aint used all mine. I have mine on a Rangie and the mounts are raised(as any shock this long would have to be). I have a 2 inch spring lift and about 2.3 inch body lift with 35's, on full up travel I scrub hard. I believe this is because the trailing arms are yet to be cranked (to be done this weekend)

What shocks are they anyway and any chance of a pic of these shocks in action? I'll show you mine if you show me yours :D
Yep, I actually wanted 710's but couldn't find any to suit. The upper mounts are rasies 1.5" to go with the bodylift, lower mounts are in the stock position (For a Rover) but on the cruiser diff. 1985 RR.

The springs are retained top and bottom and they go way past being loose to being under tension.
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Post by Maggot4x4 »

6.5 rangie wrote:
I've not seen any cranked front radius arms though



HSV Rangie has cranked front arms
Here are my front arms

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Post by Slunnie »

6.5 rangie wrote:
I've not seen any cranked front radius arms though



HSV Rangie has cranked front arms
Thats right. :oops:

I guess I meant that I've not been 4WDing with anybody with cranked radius arms.
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Post by brooksy »

I have on order a set of Edelbrock XT Remotes for my D2 Disco from Sean at ABT4x4. They have 10.75" stroke at 16.2" closed & 26.95" open (685mm). I have about a 3.5" lift. I am going to be one of the guinea pigs for ABT4x4 as I am also going to be buying the JRZ units also to adjust the valving rates to give us feed back for future customer settings then I can use the JRZ units on my comp D1 when it is finished.


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Post by cooter »

28 inch tough dog big bore adjustables
6.5inch lift


(when i get time to finish fitting them) at the moment 24 inch rs9000)
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