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Post by Nat84 »

hi all

what the cost of a engineer certificate and where and i get one out Camden way. my mods are not to Extreme just 3" body lift and 33" tyre on 82 hilux
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Post by sir_camel »

The engineer i got my certificate from (2 weeks ago) said that BL are not able to be engineered anymore in Australia. Soon even spring lifts are going to be a lot harder. Not even a 1 inch BL would be engineerable in my rig anymore, let alone 3 inch.
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Post by Nat84 »

that sucks :cry:
what can i to do??
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Post by Shadow »

Nat84 wrote:that sucks :cry:
what can i to do??
Cut the body lift down to 2", that will be acceptable in most (all?) states. in QLD 2" is approved through QLD transport with an inspection.

When the NCOP comes in tyre sizes will not be engineerable anymore, and we will be stuck with 2" over standard(hasnt been engineerable in QLD ever).
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Post by BOGAN V8 »

Nat84 wrote:that sucks :cry:
what can i to do??

Keep the body lift in and there is a guy a Peakhurst that does engineer body lifts passed a mate of mine that had a 3 inch in im sure of it
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Post by Tiny »

the new regs designed to bring all of aus into line allow self certifialble to 2" and engineers to 6" total, but the bigest thing is stil the head lights
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Post by Nat84 »

does anyone know where i can get the rules and regulations on what is allowed and whats not for highley modifide vehclies
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Post by bogged »

Nat84 wrote:does anyone know where i can get the rules and regulations on what is allowed and whats not for highley modifide vehclies
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Post by shakes »

I'm paying $132ph in melb.

Rangey chopped to an extra cab
2.5" body
2" spring
4.4ltr leyland

He Ok'd a Chassis chop and 35's too providing I uppd the axle strength and everything gussested things etc...basically do it properly.

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Post by 6.5 rangie »

Who are you using, i want to engineer mine for 35's, lift and chev desiel
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Post by bogged »

shakes wrote:He Ok'd a Chassis chop and 35's too
I think heaps of people would be interested in who he is.
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Post by shakes »

dont have his details handy.. his name is Bill, based in eltham and is torque talk or similar (his name is in the engineer link floating around here and on vicroads website)

He has done ALOT of work (read weeks doing brake tests roll centre tests etc) with the blokes at rangie spares to get their stuff pre-engineered so he's clued up on what it takes to do what to a rover.

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Post by Vulcanised »

from talking to 2 engineers in the Newcastle area, they will do 2" body lift, 35" tyres and a spring lift no trouble, and they are not adopting the NCOP for the foreseeable future. I asked for a price to do the engine swap, 4" coils, 2" body, 35" tyres..... $680 :shock: Athol Mullen will cost $300 for the engine swap + $40 for each extra modification.
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Post by sir_camel »

RoeDao wrote:from talking to 2 engineers in the Newcastle area, they will do 2" body lift, 35" tyres and a spring lift no trouble, and they are not adopting the NCOP for the foreseeable future. I asked for a price to do the engine swap, 4" coils, 2" body, 35" tyres..... $680 :shock: Athol Mullen will cost $300 for the engine swap + $40 for each extra modification.
Well i got ripped off. I couldnt get my wheels and tyres engineered due to not having upgraded axles. Engineered my suspensiion and that it basically. Got charged like $800. The guy refuses to touch BL's.
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Put his name in here so we know who to avoid....
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Post by ozy1 »

im using a Bloke at peakhurst to engineer my ute modification, diff relocation, and 35's and he told me its $600 to $800 for it all, and i believe he will do bodylifts, also told me the new laws are not coming in just yet,
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Post by Screwy »

the guy in peakhurst is who i used as well and i live in camden.....

he does pass body lifts as there is one in mine and its on the report ;)
also spring over etc.

i think the lift isnt wats important. they will pass any lift... its a matter of headlight hieght. your not aloud to exceed 1200mm total haedlight height.

so you can have any lift up to 1200mm on your headlights.
and your mud flaps etc need to be within 30cm from the ground.

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Post by ozy1 »

Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:the guy in peakhurst is who i used as well and i live in camden.....

he does pass body lifts as there is one in mine and its on the report ;)
also spring over etc.

i think the lift isnt wats important. they will pass any lift... its a matter of headlight hieght. your not aloud to exceed 1200mm total haedlight height.

so you can have any lift up to 1200mm on your headlights.
and your mud flaps etc need to be within 30cm from the ground.

screwy
Not correct Jeff, he will only engineer the lift if it is a sensible lift, and sensible being that he will do about 6" over standard, he told me this when i spoke to him a few times
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Post by Screwy »

ozy1 wrote:
Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:the guy in peakhurst is who i used as well and i live in camden.....

he does pass body lifts as there is one in mine and its on the report ;)
also spring over etc.

i think the lift isnt wats important. they will pass any lift... its a matter of headlight hieght. your not aloud to exceed 1200mm total haedlight height.

so you can have any lift up to 1200mm on your headlights.
and your mud flaps etc need to be within 30cm from the ground.

screwy
Not correct Jeff, he will only engineer the lift if it is a sensible lift, and sensible being that he will do about 6" over standard, he told me this when i spoke to him a few times

mine had an 8 inch lift and was just under 1200. he never asked me the amount of lift. only took out his tape measure and checked how high the head lights are off the ground.
im simply going off my own experiance.
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You are all in for a big shock with the new laws just passed
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Post by spazbot »

whats the point on the head light, top bottom middle ?
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Post by slosh »

spazbot wrote:whats the point on the head light, top bottom middle ?
top of headlight must be below 1200mm from ground I think.
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Post by Screwy »

slosh wrote:
spazbot wrote:whats the point on the head light, top bottom middle ?
top of headlight must be below 1200mm from ground I think.
yes thats correct.
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Post by markil »

DR Frankenstine wrote:You are all in for a big shock with the new laws just passed
Why :?:
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Post by bogged »

markil wrote:
DR Frankenstine wrote:You are all in for a big shock with the new laws just passed
Why :?:
they are tighter than a mossies arsehole...
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Post by HSV Rangie »

shakes wrote:dont have his details handy.. his name is Bill, based in eltham and is torque talk or similar (his name is in the engineer link floating around here and on vicroads website)

He has done ALOT of work (read weeks doing brake tests roll centre tests etc) with the blokes at rangie spares to get their stuff pre-engineered so he's clued up on what it takes to do what to a rover.

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35 no probs.
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Post by chimpboy »

It seems like suspension and tyres are the difficult ones - if I were looking at doing an engine + gearbox swap, plus upgrading some drum brakes to discs, can I work on the assumption (just for starters) that engineering isn't going to be toooo hard for that? Just for a hypothetical project.
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Post by slosh »

It sounds like several of the 4by friendly engineers are still passing some good stuff- John Varetimidis (sic?) Sydney is still passing 35's and sus lifts as long as headlights below 1200mm. Talked to him today, his best guess is we still have the old laws in NSW for a couple of months yet. Typical govt- even when it rushes things still take a year.
It looks ass if the new laws will not be retrospective, so anything passed now will still be good in future- SO PEOPLE GET YOUR JUNK ENGINEERED WHILE YOU CAN!
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Post by bogged »

shakes wrote:dont have his details handy.. his name is Bill, based in eltham and is torque talk or similar
Is this him?

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