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80 series knock

Tech Talk for Cruiser owners.

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Post by Joombi »

Sorry man, wasn't my intention....
yep, as soon as I get my 75 out of the workshop, the 80, with 1HDT will be going in for new bearings, just in case, a very valuable lesson learnt here.
the ute, I only bought last august, I put 5000k's on it before the knock started, there are some rsoles in the world I tell ya
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Post by sniper »

yep, mine only started after i did an oil change :bad-words:
was quiet as a mouse until then
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Post by sniper »

correction, i cant get it in until next monday15th. My mechanic is booked solid :cry:
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Post by Joombi »

Sniper, good luck today mate, my wife is taking my newly aquired 1HZ in a trailer to my ute today to be dropped in, hope you have better news...
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Post by sniper »

Well got mine back today, big end bearings replaced though the old ones where ok (apparently recalled by toyota and replaced) but now i have new ones so ........
Also new timing belt while they where at it and tensioner also.
Lets see how she goes.
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Post by dow50r »

Good luck sniper. At least you know they will be all good for the next 5 or more years....Toyota were selling new hdt's for a discount price of 6k long...so some wreckers are up themselves with their prices....
Did the mechanic put 50 back in it???
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Post by Toli »

Joombi wrote:Sniper, got the news today... Big ends..... scored the crank too....
I'm up for some serious dollars.
but I'm looking at it from the point of view that I'll know exactly whats been done to the ute now (I have to, I can't sit down & cry about it)
how'd you go with yours?
Joom....
OK bit of a newby question but how oftern do you have to do them and how does it effect the truck when they are gone.
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Post by Joombi »

"OK bit of a newby question but how oftern do you have to do them and how does it effect the truck when they are gone."

Toli, I'm no mech but as far as I know, If you look after your rig with regular services, they should last a very long time, from experience, if I ever buy a second hand car again, this will be the very first thing I get replaced. you can do a shitload of damage if the bigends are rooted, even end up with a piston out the side of your motor (Leg out of bed).
a bloke I was talking to the other day has a 1990 nissan patrol ute with big end trouble, he bought another motor to put in & thought he'd wait for this one to let go before he put the new one in, its been ticking around for 2 years now.... its gotta go soon.
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Post by sniper »

I have been told safest to replace them every 100k, this said 80`s were recalled by TMCA mine was recalled previously and replaced though i still redone them anyway just to be on the safe side. My mechanic said there was little sign of wear on my bearings at all....phew for me

Also timing belts should be changed every 100k and adjuster/tensioner also checked/replaced

when a car is recalled you should have a little square silver sticker some where on the vehcile (funny enough it does not have TMCA written anywhere on the sticker.
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Post by vSAHARAx »

mums old 91 1HDT dropped #5 big end bearing at 208 000 km's back in April 2000, it chewed the crank and buggered the bore!!! :cry:

1 machined to the max crank + 6 machined to the max bores + 6 over sized pistons + over sized rings + new big end and main bearings + 2 months without car + 4 services @ 2500km intervals to try and remove all traces of metal

= around $8000!!!!

And we were told we got out of it cheaply, some people have had it drop pistons and some even throw pistons through the block. We shoulda just got a 6.5L V8 :cry:

We were told to change the big ends every 100 000kms! So we learnt after that!
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Post by sniper »

that sounds like 1 big lemon of a cruiser, should of guttered it and claimed insurance
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Post by sniper »

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

Done an oil change last night, used valvoline 15W40 as directed by TMCA and rattle f*#kin rattle again.......

Next week i will change it back to penrite 15W50 as what my mechanic used when he done my bearings as the noise had disapered.
Took it to him today he has no idea what it is. He told me he has heard it on many cruisers 1HD and 1HZ and they cant find a reason for this.

im not :bad-words: happy
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Post by dow50r »

8k brand new long motor from toyota....some wreckers are tools///
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Post by Joombi »

Must be the week for it, the exchange 1HZ i put in my 75 series had its first highway outing today, after 20k's sitting on 100 it was over heating, the only thing different from before is I have put a winch bar, winch & side rails & the winch control box is in front of the grill so ill move it tomorrow & see what happens, this ute is staring to piss me off so I know how you feel Sniper
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Post by squarebear »

i got 1hz 80 ser natural aspriated done 300 tho i got a tap or rattel noise that comes in about 2000 and disapears 2500 i first thort it was a big end noise as coming from bottom rear of sump.i put a screwdriver to bottom of sump and to my ear to me it sounded as if it was coming from the clutch plate its been like that for 2 years now could be one of the spring dampers in the clutch ill worrey about it wen it goes bang.
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Post by Toli »

sniper wrote:AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

Done an oil change last night, used valvoline 15W40 as directed by TMCA and rattle f*#kin rattle again.......

Next week i will change it back to penrite 15W50 as what my mechanic used when he done my bearings as the noise had disapered.
Took it to him today he has no idea what it is. He told me he has heard it on many cruisers 1HD and 1HZ and they cant find a reason for this.

im not :bad-words: happy
let us know how it goes with Penrite I am about to put the same valvoline oil in mine.
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Post by sniper »

I have been a slack ass, and not replied for a while.
This is what happened.
Changed the oil from valvoline 15W40 (recomended by toyota)
to penrite 15W50
the noise decreased straight after the changed till it just disapered and is now gone.
Although i am not entirely sure that it was the oil that done rectifed this, but that is all i have changed.
So i will stick with using penrite from now on.
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Post by Toli »

That is strange. I did the oil change with the valvaline 15w 40(got it at repco on sale) I have had no problems. The guy I got the truck off had been using valvaline for the entire time he had it 20w 40.

If that one works stick with it I say. Know idea why it would make such a big difference with the 2 different oils.
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Post by Suspension Stuff »

So far my bill is $13,800 and likely to be another couple of grand as this is just for the parts.

Totally reconditioned motor as everything was stuffed cost be $7,700 (1HDT) (Just the engine not fitting) then the pump was cactus so it cost me $2,200, then there is the turbo, I think it was a bit under $2000. I think these prices are trade prices or close to it but I could be wrong. Needed 6 injectors, I think $750, CV's $260( Labour included). Anyway dam these Cruisers can cost some $. Luckily I sold my house otherwise me the mrs and the mini foxies would be pulling the caravan by hand.

Turns out someone would have filled the engine and everything else with sand and Ocean water, patched her up and sold it to me. I look on the bright side and at least the engine will last me, I just now have to cross my fingers that the Auto and transfer case are ok.

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Post by crapzooky »

check ur exaust isnt hittin the gaurd, i just bend the gaurd a bit nd problem solved
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Post by sniper »

Nah, the knock is coming from the sound through the bell housing. Reminds you of a stuck injector(which it isnt).
As long as it stays goooone im happy. I had no performance issues or anything with or with out the noise, just anoyed the hell out of me.

I feel for you though 4WD Stuff, got the bum end of that deal with your cruiser. But like you say, you know whats done now and should last a looooong time now.

The valvoline oil is used by others I know also with no probs, and I dont think the oil change really rectified the problem....but its gone and thats the main thing. And like mentioned it happened straight after my oil change.
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