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dropped front hangers - hilux ?
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dropped front hangers - hilux ?
Hey guys,
I want to get some more lift out of my hilux.
It currently has a 2" BD, 2" spring lift.
I am looking at doing either extended shackles or dropped front hangers...or maybe even both ?
Can I get away without having to get cross over steering ?
I just want another 2" of lift, so what would be the easiest, non-complicated way to do so ?
Cheers.
I want to get some more lift out of my hilux.
It currently has a 2" BD, 2" spring lift.
I am looking at doing either extended shackles or dropped front hangers...or maybe even both ?
Can I get away without having to get cross over steering ?
I just want another 2" of lift, so what would be the easiest, non-complicated way to do so ?
Cheers.
Why do you want more lift?
To fit 35's, it should be possible with 2" BL and 2" Springlift if you have your front housing moved forward 30mm+ and some bumpstop finetuning. This can be done with offset perches available from superior, or getting the holes redrilled in your spring packs.
Extended shackles are illegal remember...
To fit 35's, it should be possible with 2" BL and 2" Springlift if you have your front housing moved forward 30mm+ and some bumpstop finetuning. This can be done with offset perches available from superior, or getting the holes redrilled in your spring packs.
Extended shackles are illegal remember...
Cheers,
Dan.
[i]1996 HDJ80R[/i]
Dan.
[i]1996 HDJ80R[/i]
If you use rear leaf springs at the front, it will move your housing forward 50mm, I don't know what mods are needed for your steering because i put Hi steer in at the same time so you may need to look at what is needed. But anyway I ran 35's with just 3" BL and it was fine just scrubed a little doing U-turns.
I am currently running a 2" BL, 2" ext shackles, 2" dropped hangars, rear springs up front (diff forwards 2") and whatever " the springs are. Im still using the std style steering setup, with the adjustable dropped draglink. its not a good steering setup for 6-7" of lift, but it is getting me round ok atm. the good news for me tho is my hi steer is just about to go on, probably in the next week or so (as soon as i can clean my garage enough for the truck to get in).
As soon as the pics are working again, ill post some up.
Or if ya want me to email them to you, PM me.
Cheers
As soon as the pics are working again, ill post some up.
Or if ya want me to email them to you, PM me.
Cheers
3 main reasons for fitting x over are.....
1. With the extra down travel you loose alot of steering because of the extreme angle the steering arm is on, a by product of that angle is the arm now rubs on the top of the unis (ie, bad)
2. The length of the torque rod and the leaf spring arent equal, and with extra travel this puts alot of tension on your torque rod mounts and the front spring hanger. One will eventually go, followed by the other, and im speaking from personal experiance here.
3. Bump steer, which has already been mentioned. This happens because the steering geometry is affected everytime the wheel moves up and down, not so much of an issue if your truck is at standard height and the steeering arm is parallel to the ground. You will still have bump steer in a x-over system where the arm is not parallel to the ground, but because the arm is now 3 times the length the effect is cut down by a 1/3rd and whatever percentage difference there is in the angle between the two, a very very notable difference not to mention a much safer one.
1. With the extra down travel you loose alot of steering because of the extreme angle the steering arm is on, a by product of that angle is the arm now rubs on the top of the unis (ie, bad)
2. The length of the torque rod and the leaf spring arent equal, and with extra travel this puts alot of tension on your torque rod mounts and the front spring hanger. One will eventually go, followed by the other, and im speaking from personal experiance here.
3. Bump steer, which has already been mentioned. This happens because the steering geometry is affected everytime the wheel moves up and down, not so much of an issue if your truck is at standard height and the steeering arm is parallel to the ground. You will still have bump steer in a x-over system where the arm is not parallel to the ground, but because the arm is now 3 times the length the effect is cut down by a 1/3rd and whatever percentage difference there is in the angle between the two, a very very notable difference not to mention a much safer one.
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I'm finding that my current set-up already has heaps of bump steer.
I've put on a new steering knuckle, ball joints and bushes. I'm running 33's, with the afformentioned 2" body lift and 2" springs.
I think my steering dampner is shot. Does the steering dampner make that much of a difference ? Especially with bump steer ?
Cheers.
I've put on a new steering knuckle, ball joints and bushes. I'm running 33's, with the afformentioned 2" body lift and 2" springs.
I think my steering dampner is shot. Does the steering dampner make that much of a difference ? Especially with bump steer ?
Cheers.
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