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My 1st Locker....mount front or rear...

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My 1st Locker....mount front or rear...

Post by gotoy »

Fitting an air locker next week.

Biggest question is, should I mount front or rear?

My vehicle presently does not have a locker, autolocker or lsd.
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Post by plowy »

and the vechile is a?
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Post by sniper »

front especialy if you have an LSD in the rear
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Post by MUD000 »

I would go rear better value you will get more use out of it
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Post by gotoy »

My vehicle is a bundy, no lsd or locker fitted.

Yep I also think the rear.

Does anybody mount an LSD in the front?
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Post by plowy »

sniper wrote:front especialy if you have an LSD in the rear
unfortunately toyota's lsd are shit
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Post by G_loomis »

I have lockers front and rear in my 60...I have changed the wiring loom so they can be engaged individually.

I turn the front on a lot more than the rear...So I would go front.

Also my brother inlaw was faced with that Q in a hilux...he ended up going rear and has regretted ever since.
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Post by badger »

go front
as rear locker in a shorty is scary as
front locker helps u take obsticals slower as u climb them ............... also makes shorty less scary

and arb front carrier fixes alot of the weak front diff dramas
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Post by tuff 75 »

put 1 in the front if u like doing hill climbs and climbing rocks but if u like doing donuts and hanging the rear out wide put one in the rear.... :armsup: :armsup:
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Post by alexcliffo »

Be prepared to blow cv's if you put it in the front, depending on how hard you drive it.
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Post by bastard »

Id go the rear and save up for a front :lol:
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Post by Spartacus »

tuff 75 wrote:put 1 in the front if u like doing hill climbs and climbing
rocks but if u like doing donuts and hanging the rear out wide put one in the rear.... :armsup: :armsup:
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Post by sniper »

alexcliffo wrote:Be prepared to blow cv's if you put it in the front, depending on how hard you drive it.
Thats if you drive like before you had it and had to try to bounce over rocks, with the locker you just need to crawl, then alot less likely to break anything ;)
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Post by Modified Toy »

Spartacus wrote:
tuff 75 wrote:put 1 in the front if u like doing hill climbs and climbing
rocks but if u like doing donuts and hanging the rear out wide put one in the rear.... :armsup: :armsup:
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Post by 350_60series »

put the air locker in the back and weld the front :P
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Post by chevJ40 »

dont weld the dront air lockers front and rear absolute best and i would agree locker in the rear first if u like mud
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Post by 45punkbus »

weld rear and locker in the front,

but if you dont want to weld put it in the back :D
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Post by midi73 »

If you do a lot of hill climbs and want the front to kick around and throw you down the hill sideways, then put it in the front, I have seen it happen. I you want control because you have the weight over the wheels that are driving while you are doing hill climbs, then put it in the back. Unless you intend going up hills backwards. I have watched 4bys on the same hill one with locker in the front and one with locker in the back and the one with the locker in the front was bloody scary.
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Post by suzi_on_46s »

go the front

what sort of driving do you do?
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Post by BabyGodzillaGTi-R »

For our typical muddy Malaysian environment and deep rutted hils i say go for the rear. Atleast u get some steering.
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Re: My 1st Locker....mount front or rear...

Post by crankycruiser »

gotoy wrote:Fitting an air locker next week.

Biggest question is, should I mount front or rear?

My vehicle presently does not have a locker, autolocker or lsd.
I put a front one in mine first.. and it made a big difference...

But then i got my rear one.... now i hardly use the front..

so i would say rear...
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Post by -BJ- »

I would say rear, seeing as you dont have an LSD (not that a Yota one would help much ;) )
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Post by bastard »

midi73 wrote:If you do a lot of hill climbs and want the front to kick around and throw you down the hill sideways, then put it in the front, I have seen it happen. I you want control because you have the weight over the wheels that are driving while you are doing hill climbs, then put it in the back. Unless you intend going up hills backwards. I have watched 4bys on the same hill one with locker in the front and one with locker in the back and the one with the locker in the front was bloody scary.
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Agree 100 percent locker in the rear for hill climbing or any climbing for that matter.The front wheels have hardly any drive on them most of it transfers to the rear.
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Post by badger »

the problem with a locker in the rear of a shorty for hill climbs is that u will end up on your roof

if u lock the front it allows the front to drive alot more thus changeing the weight balance of the car. and also allows you to take the hills that will make u land on your roof slower and with more control
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Post by midi73 »

badger wrote:the problem with a locker in the rear of a shorty for hill climbs is that u will end up on your roof

if u lock the front it allows the front to drive alot more thus changeing the weight balance of the car. and also allows you to take the hills that will make u land on your roof slower and with more control
If you end up on your roof with the locker in the rear then you are not driving steady like you are talking about, you are putting the boot in way to hard. Locking the front will not change your weight balance at all. The weight is still at the back. All it will mean is instead of having 1 wheel scrabling for traction, you will have 2 wheels scrabling for traction, because the weight is still over the back wheels. Having both front wheels scrabling for traction with no or little drive at the back, is the reason why the front kicks around and can put you on your side. As said above I have seen this happen.
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Post by evanstaniland »

as i have a bundy i know how shit the front flexes and the front lifting wheels is a regular on a desent track thus loosing front drive

i would say go front first with a bundy as you will then be able to drive forward on 3 wheels rather than loosing both front.
well thats what i would do first

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Post by smithie »

Locking the front will not change your weight balance at all. The weight is still at the back. All it will mean is instead of having 1 wheel scrabling for traction, you will have 2 wheels scrabling for traction, because the weight is still over the back wheels
Midi73's 100% right, putting a locker in the front is not going to change the weight balance of the front.

I dont know why ppl seem so scared about driving shortys up hills. I've got a 1990 PZJ70 SWB on 35's and have never even come close to going over backwards..

My mate has a worked 350 Chev FJ40 on 35's and a heavy right foot and has popped the front wheels up from time to time on some pretty hairy tracks (otways).. but with a bit of driver knowledge about the limits of your car its not significant enough to be scared about.

I'd put a locker in the rear of mine without question.
Just my humble opinion of course.
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Post by Stackson45 »

I've only got one locker - in the rear of my troopy ( i didn't have any choice as it was in the rear diff when i got them) - and it makes a huge difference. There is so much more weight over the rears compared to the front - look at how easy it is to spin the fronts when you're driving around on them with the rear shaft out after you've blown your rear diff (speaking from experience).

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Post by MQ080 »

Rear
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Post by Gribble »

Front. :D
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