Help on getting GPS PDA FOR 4X4 TRACKS

Post by **bushpig59** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:36 pm

Seen in a GQ the other day a Toshiba PDA on a handsfree holder with a GPS ant on dash and maps for melways ,4 x 4 forest off road maps and even for air craft. Can any body point me in the right direction on this under $1000!

SORRY GUYS I AM LOOKING FOR A PDA THAT DOES 4X4 TRACKS ANY LOW COST IDEAS????

was amazed this was so cool this see and had waypoints etcetc

Post by **jtraf** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:51 pm

I use a dell axim with a compact flash GPS and run destinator DN. Plug in and address and it gives verbal and visual directions. Even gave us directions to get back home from Walkers track in Melbourne.....

Pretty cool I havn't used a melway in 6mths.

You can use any Windows CE handheld.

also works really well on the older Dell X50 handheld my bro has.....

cheers

James

Post by **Emo** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:01 pm

What are you looking at using it for? I've got an Ipax HX4700 with a CF GPS receiver and I'm running Destinator and Oziexplorer. Destinator is a street based navigation package with voice directions. Very cool and whilst it does have some of the major tracks listed it's not much use for offroading. Oziexplorer is only as good as the maps you have loaded in it and whilst pretty good, the size of the PDA screen does hinder you.
eBay is probably the best place. You can either put it together in pieces which I did or buy a complete as possible package. You'll certainly do it easily for $1000. Most won't have Oziexplorer which you will have to add. My crradle is by a NZ company called Free Cruiser. It has power and an external speaker. Just the thing to hear voice directions over the top of ACDC.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/All-in-one-Pocke ... dZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MIO-336BT-POCET- ... dZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Brand-New-ASUS-M ... dZViewItem

Post by **bushpig59** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:06 pm

I have a navman which was replaced the 12v dc input was loose and they replaced it with a BNIB which one of the keys is intermittent what a piece of sh#t......
I am going to use it for geelong streets and for off road in the otways mt cole anglsea and other areas not sure which map or pda or gps rx unit to get but as in first post seen it work with melways mapping then maps of the 4 wheel drive tracks of the otways and even flight maps all in one!!!
Me Homer me want one aaarrrrrgggghhhhh

Post by **nicbeer** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:18 pm

EMO - do you convert your own maps?

I have done it for ozi but cant find a converter to make TIFF images with packbit compression. I have got a image at 2.3GB at the moment.

Nic

Post by **bushpig59** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:22 pm

[quote="Emo"]What are you looking at using it for? I've got an Ipax HX4700 with a CF GPS receiver and I'm running Destinator and Oziexplorer. Destinator is a street based navigation package with voice directions. Very cool and whilst it does have some of the major tracks listed it's not much use for offroading. Oziexplorer is only as good as the maps you have loaded in it and whilst pretty good, the size of the PDA screen does hinder you.
eBay is probably the best place. You can either put it together in pieces which I did or buy a complete as possible package. You'll certainly do it easily for $1000. Most won't have Oziexplorer which you will have to add. My crradle is by a NZ company called Free Cruiser. It has power and an external speaker. Just the thing to hear voice directions over the top of ACDC.

Do you of off road maps? EG map of all the tracks of an area such as OTWAYS Vic (Example) Will look at you set up on Google thanks EMO

Post by **-Mick-** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:22 am

you can get a new hp iqap 1940 w/ bluetooth (a nice basic unit on a proven platform) for $350 and a bluetooth gps for $120. Then you need a $60 powered holder (the free cruiser already mentioned). So somewhere around $500 for all the hardware

Stuff paying a grand for in car gps stuff!!! Software is free if you look around I could show you where to get it all (destinator, oziexplorer, mobile gps stuff )......... but I don't condone getting free software

Post by **Emo** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:53 am

nicbeer wrote:EMO - do you convert your own maps?

I have done it for ozi but cant find a converter to make TIFF images with packbit compression. I have got a image at 2.3GB at the moment.

Nic

No. I've got all of Vic at 1:100k scale which is pretty good. This is on a DVD and I think that it's about 3.5gb but split into 4 folders. I've also managed to pick up a number of the offroading areas like Toolangi, Wombat, Erica, Gembrook etc at 1:25k scale which is even better.

Post by **grazza** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:08 am

I bought an iPaq Rx1950 off eBay for $200 and a Magellan 315 handheld GPS for $130. I wanted the separate handheld for sailing since it is rugged and waterproof. The cable to connect and power both was $100. A 512Mb memory card was $25 new.

Use TomTom navigator for street routing (using the Ozzy Osborne voice of course!) and OziExplorer for bush travel.

Very happy with it - the Rx1950 is a compact unit.

Would recommend a bluetooth unit to save on the cable - but you will still need power cables...

Post by **Potter** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:14 am

is it posinle to plot tracks with the gps?
for example if i was driving around the bush can a gps or similar remember the track so i can make a map when i get home??

Post by **Loanrangie** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:17 pm

I have an Ipaq 4150 which i found on the road near my house

and got a Bluetooth gps for $100 to my door off ebay, a 1 gig sd card $56 to my door and a bt usb dongle $15 to my door and use ozi ce. The gps came with a power adapter that also powers/ charges the pda as well as the gps unit, i just need a cheap arse phone holder for the dash and maybe an external antenna for bush work to complete. If you do get a bt gps, make sure it has an external antenna socket.
go to the GPS OZ website and there is a program called ozi map grabber that can get maps off the web for any region you like for nada.
nick.

Post by **Emo** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:15 pm

troll01 wrote:is it posinle to plot tracks with the gps?
for example if i was driving around the bush can a gps or similar remember the track so i can make a map when i get home??

Yes, Oziexplorer has a route marking function that trails a red line behind you.

Post by **Mick_n_Sal** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:59 pm

Was in K-Mart the other day and saw an acer n-35 package with built in gps & destinator software ( I think for both it and a desktop ) ready to go for $499 ( i think ) Anyone have any more info on these units??

Mick

Post by **-Mick-** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:59 pm

Mick_n_Sal wrote:Was in K-Mart the other day and saw an acer n-35 package with built in gps & destinator software ( I think for both it and a desktop ) ready to go for $499 ( i think ) Anyone have any more info on these units??

Mick

jebus that's cheap. That's about the retail on the software alone for those who pay for software

Post by **dwaynes** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:49 pm

just on the subject of gps and pda's has any one used the gps serial cradles they got on ebay?

Post by **bushpig59** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:42 pm

Seen in a GQ the other day a Toshiba PDA on a handsfree holder with a GPS ant on dash and maps for melways ,4 x 4 forest off road maps and even for air craft. Can any body point me in the right direction on this under $1000!

SORRY GUYS I AM LOOKING FOR A PDA THAT DOES 4X4 TRACKS ANY LOW COST IDEAS????

was amazed this was so cool this see and had waypoints etcetc

Post by **Troll00** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:44 pm

I have an Ipaq PDA/Phone and got a Bluetooth gps, a 1 gig sd card and use ozi explorer ce you can download it free of the web site and buy the reg for $40. The gps came with a power adapter, I got a holder for the windscreen that also powers/charges the pda. If you do get a bt gps, make sure it has an external antenna socket. I use the Auslig topo maps which are stored on the sd card.
Used this all over the Vic high country before easter and worked really well and gives you lots of details of tracks
I also bought Co-Pilot Pocket PC 5 for street nav and it work ok sometimes the directions are not always the quickest and shortest way to get there, but it beats having to try to get the wife to read maps

Post by **bushpig59** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:39 pm

Troll00 wrote:I have an Ipaq PDA/Phone and got a Bluetooth gps, a 1 gig sd card and use ozi explorer ce you can download it free of the web site and buy the reg for $40. The gps came with a power adapter, I got a holder for the windscreen that also powers/charges the pda. If you do get a bt gps, make sure it has an external antenna socket. I use the Auslig topo maps which are stored on the sd card.
Used this all over the Vic high country before easter and worked really well and gives you lots of details of tracks
I also bought Co-Pilot Pocket PC 5 for street nav and it work ok sometimes the directions are not always the quickest and shortest way to get there, but it beats having to try to get the wife to read maps

You ripper this sounds very much the same as a fellow 4x4 club members got thanks for your input much appreciated Just curious what brand was the Bluetooth gps?
Oh does Co-pilot pocket pc work ok? Is that the Sydways Melways mapping?
Thanks in advance
John

Post by **-Mick-** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:42 pm

if you buy bluetooth gps look for the SIRF III chipset..... more accurate (for a single frequency receiver) than the old tech

Post by **bushpig59** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:48 pm

-Mick- wrote:if you buy bluetooth gps look for the SIRF III chipset..... more accurate (for a single frequency receiver) than the old tech

Does Ebay have them???

Post by **-Mick-** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:50 pm

bushpig59 wrote:
-Mick- wrote:if you buy bluetooth gps look for the SIRF III chipset..... more accurate (for a single frequency receiver) than the old tech
Does Ebay have them???

yeah pretty sure they will mate......

also www.buygpsnow.com is good. American but the service and postage is awesome

Post by **-Mick-** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:52 pm

got this one for a mate for 120 inc post from Ebay. Was a good unit.

http://www.buygpsnow.com/avl-bluetooth- ... t-385.html

But to buy from the US would have been a good bit cheaper

Post by **bushpig59** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:53 pm

-Mick- wrote:
bushpig59 wrote:
-Mick- wrote:if you buy bluetooth gps look for the SIRF III chipset..... more accurate (for a single frequency receiver) than the old tech
Does Ebay have them???
yeah pretty sure they will mate......

also www.buygpsnow.com is good. American but the service and postage is awesome

Thanks Mick , looking at the site now...
Next time I,m your way I'll owe you a beer

Post by **Loanrangie** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:12 pm

Troll00 wrote: it beats having to try to get the wife to read maps

Surely this the single best selling point for the whole idea !

Post by **Nev** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:08 pm

Just been having a bit of look at these lately but still not really up on it all. Has anyone tried any of the pda's with built in gps like the acer n35 or navman pin 570? How do they stack up?

I think the acer comes with destinator and the navman with "smart" road level guidance but do these programs have the option of marking your tracks offroad so you can see where you went last time as Emo said about the oziexplorer package? Also on a unit such as the navman...theres no reason why i cant download and use another guidance program such as oziexplorer is there?

Thanks for your help

Post by **bluemq** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:55 pm

i have an ipaq that i would consider selling if anyone wants it

all it needs is the gps attachment and you should be able to download the software.

pm me if interested

Post by **Charlie** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:48 pm

nicbeer wrote:EMO - do you convert your own maps?

I have done it for ozi but cant find a converter to make TIFF images with packbit compression. I have got a image at 2.3GB at the moment.

Nic

Adobe Elements or Photoshop, Paintshop Pro all support it,being a licenced format you need to add the auslig.dll for the full version of ozi to support it,I'm not sure the CE vesion does support compessed Tiff images.

Post by **bluemu** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:51 pm

I use a O2 Xda Exec and BT338 bluetooth Gps reciever which is surf III, running Tomtom and Oziexplorer.

The PDA is also a 3G phone. Can pick one up on ebay for about $900.....considering its also the most cutting edge phone on the market at this time and costs less than a navman....its dam good way to go.

Post by **bushpig59** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:46 pm

bluemu wrote:I use a O2 Xda Exec and BT338 bluetooth Gps reciever which is surf III, running Tomtom and Oziexplorer.

The PDA is also a 3G phone. Can pick one up on ebay for about $900.....considering its also the most cutting edge phone on the market at this time and costs less than a navman....its dam good way to go.

thanks for the info my missus was swaying towards O2 Xda Exec
will look in to it...... looking for wifi bluetooth and the usual features..
I take the Tomtom is a seperate GPS? The BT338 bluetooth Gps does it rx in the bush?

Cheers
John

Post by **JimmyTheHuman** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:58 pm

ASUS is the grooviest built in GPS with really great PDA functions too. Dont buy it with software and spend $500 and dpownload all of the softwares you want from the web .

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