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RN105 - replacing the 22r with 1ggte

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RN105 - replacing the 22r with 1ggte

Post by NISMOgemini »

ok i done a search spent a hour reading and have a few questions to clear up b4 making the decision weather to do this or not


i have a RN105 22r carby, live axel front and rear.

1: iv read in a heap of threads that the 1ggte bolts up to the hilux gearbox.. does this mean i use the hilux bell housing and bolt it to the back of the 1ggte? or do i need teh 1ggte bell housing to bolt to the hilux gearbox??
this woudl also mean i only need to make engine mountsto have the engine in place?

2: 22r sucks the fuel down.. will the 1ggte be more efficiant??

3: does the sump require any mods at all??

4: has anyone had any problems with the hilux box not liking the extra power??


cheers guys
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Post by NISMOgemini »

also
5: what clutch and fly wheel will i need to use.. teh 1g one?
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Post by Frankenyota »

Is there anything wrong with the engine besides it drinking problem?
22re conversion is a good swap for the cost.
I swapped my 4y for a 22re engine, was pretty straight forward.
Very happy with result :D
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Post by NISMOgemini »

well fuel mainly and the fact that i could probably get the 1ggte in here for close to the same cost as the 22re and it will have more go go :P :lol:

aslong as it mates up tothe box as easy as it seems
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Post by Frankenyota »

checked out the toymods site for info on the 1gg** motors?
Thought i red somewhere to use 1gg** belhousing, clutch etc
to hilux box, but can't be sure now.
good luck


cheers
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Post by NISMOgemini »

yeha i tryed searching toymods.. but couldnt find anyhtign spacific on mating them to the hilux gearbox
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Post by TUFFAUSSIE60 »

I have a 1GGTE powered hilux sitting in the driveway, want rid of the entire driveline to make way for a Chev and auto on cruiser diffs.
Also have a more than a complete 1GGTE in spares.
Let me know if you or anyone else is interested.
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Post by NISMOgemini »

TUFFAUSSIE60 wrote:I have a 1GGTE powered hilux sitting in the driveway, want rid of the entire driveline to make way for a Chev and auto on cruiser diffs.
Also have a more than a complete 1GGTE in spares.
Let me know if you or anyone else is interested.
sending PM now :armsup:
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Post by NISMOgemini »

i found out that the 1g's come in 3 configurations

front sump, mid sump and rear sump.. which is best suited for the hilux.. anyone know??
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Post by hokey »

Have you worked out the gearbox issues? have a search around toymods if you haven't.
Check on your current set up where the sump is aswell. that should give you and idea. are you buying the motor from an importer? They should be able to get each type of engine with different sumps for you :)
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Post by NISMOgemini »

hokey wrote:Have you worked out the gearbox issues? have a search around toymods if you haven't.
Check on your current set up where the sump is aswell. that should give you and idea. are you buying the motor from an importer? They should be able to get each type of engine with different sumps for you :)
everythign i can find says 1g bell housing bolts to the lux box.. this htread was to conferm this if anyone knows for sure??
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Post by SASS »

Try http://www.supracharged.com
Why not go for 7mge or the turbo 7mgte? 3 litre and turboed if u want it. motor is out of supra or cressida both aussie delivered cars. im half way through the swap right now. easy so far!!!! bellhousing and engine mounts all line up!!
Stick it in low and NAIL IT !!!!!!!!!!
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Post by NISMOgemini »

how old are the 7mg enignes?? are the avalable in cars newer then 89??

if the bellhousinf and engine mounts all line up.. its basicly a bolt for bolt swap to get it in the engine bay?
sump fine with clearing the x-member?
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Post by SASS »

Check out the link its the holly grail for info on this swap!! look for 4rnerrick his write up is awsome.

parts wise you need to find some supra bits and pieces (can be a little hard at times) but the motor is standard in australian cressidas (MX83) from 89 through to like 93.

Have a look at the link the whole site is about the swap!!!
Also go through the forums there, endless info there to!!!
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Post by NISMOgemini »

yeah i just been reading the link.. heaps of info.. thanks heaps..
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Post by SASS »

what do u think?
my truck is a rn105 dualcab originally with 22r (75kw standard) soon to be 7mge (142 kw standard) when complete. cant wait!!!!!

Where u from nis ?
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Post by NISMOgemini »

south brisbane

you??

the turbo 7m looks very tasty :D
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Post by SASS »

mate i live at birkdale (next to capalabah and wellington point) bay side south brisbane if u want to have a look. mind u it still is in pieces.
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Post by NISMOgemini »

hey, yeah i wouldnt mind checking it out.. see whats needed to be done...
if i go head with it i need to done in under a month kinda thing.. so i wanna have everythgin ready and prepaired to go..

do u have msn at all??

side question.. how do i tell what transmition i have in the lux.. would it be on one of the ID/Body tags?
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Post by SASS »

nah dont have msn.

your box should be g52 (mine is and its the same truck) but yes it will be on the tags!
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Post by NISMOgemini »

sweet as..

so you used the stock 7m engine mounts ?? im reading on that site that one of the guys had to us 5m enigne mounts.. but this was a 4 runner.. so might be different again???

do u know what car / year your particulare engine came from?? soarer or cressida??
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Post by SASS »

no used the 5mge mounts. motor is out of a ma70 supra. 90% of the parts u need are from a ma70 supra.
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Post by NISMOgemini »

to easy...
as above.. i wanna get a list of parts needed so i can collect them together and have everythign possable i need to start the conversion and get it in and runing as quick as possible..

any other spacifics u can think of that i might need to hunt down???
would u reccomend a 1/2 cut over just an engine and gearbox package?

thanks for al the info you giving me :)


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Post by SASS »

Get a whole car or half cut if u can. look for 4rnerrick in the general forum on supracharged he has a 9 page writeup with pics and a full list of what is needed.

also google is your friend, look for 7mge, 7mge hilux and 7mge forerunner. also any info on the 5mge swap is usefull as it is the same block as the 7mge and is a very similar swap (uses all the same parts)

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Post by NISMOgemini »

SWEET :D

thanks again .. i didnt even notice there was a forum aswell on the site lol..

cheers.
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Post by BUNDERA »

Not sure if someone has already mentioned this bualready confirmed that you bolt the 1G Bellhousing to the G52 Box. Custom Engine mounts are needed. You use the flywheel and clutch off the 1g.

Search for "bundera engine converion" by me from years ago.
I put a 1ggte into my bundera..

All the best.
Regards,
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Post by NISMOgemini »

thanks nick. i will check it out
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