Shabby start but not glow plugs

Post by **Rough60** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:01 pm

Hi all,
The last couple of weeks my HJ60 has been starting on what seems 4 or 5 cylinders with a fair bit of smoke coming out the back, checked the glow plugs and and wiring and all seems ok. You can feel the other 1 or 2 cylinders kick in after about 5 - 10 seconds, I havn't tried glowing it twice before startup to see if that helps yet. I was wondering if it could be something like low compression or just the cold mornings (about 5-6 deg).
Cheers.

Post by **plowy** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:08 pm

on older 60 series you wait after the glow light goes

and wait till you here a click from engine bay then start

see how that works

Post by **Zeyphly** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:24 pm

when whas the last time your injectors were checked?

Post by **Rough60** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:30 pm

yeah it's an '84, i do wait for the click not just the light, thats why i was wondering about glowing it twice.
I've been trying to find a good desiel mechanic around northern syd/gosford, anyone have any recommendations?
cheers.

Post by **QIKAZZ** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:49 pm

mine does exactly the same thing, im yet to work out the cause, if you do get it worked out please let me know what it is, luckily for me, my 60 is only a weekend basher and its lucky to get used once a fourtnight, sometimes it sits for over 1 month unstarted so it doesnt bother me a great deal, but it would still be nice to know what it is.

Post by **Shadow** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:06 pm

Could be glow plugs(pull them out and test them individually) bad injectors or low compression (blow-by leaky valve etc)

Post by **QIKAZZ** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:15 pm

i know mine is definatly not the glow plugs, because I have replaced them all, when I found one dead, it was starting even worse with the dead glow plug, but it still does it even with brand new plugs, and I have since then retested all the new plugs.

Post by **plowy** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:51 am

rough 60 have you removed your glow plugs n tested them?

when was the last valve adjustment done ?

then follow up with the compression test

Post by **Ruffy** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:52 am

Also make sure you clean the bus bar (alloy bar connecting all glow plugs) and connections to glow plugs. I have seen a few with bad connections to one or two glow plugs causing the same problem.
Cheers, Dan

Post by **Rough60** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:43 pm

Thanks guys,
yeah i pulled them out yesterday and tested them across the battery, all worked. The bus bar is still in good nick and clean.
I've had the truck almost a year now am am looking for a good diesel mech around nth syd/gosford for valve adjust. and injector check etc. Appart from this prob the ol' girl is running great.
cheers.

Post by **dibbz** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:15 pm

I've been suspect that this is something to do with a tune or service as I changed mechanic 18 months ago, my 60 runs a bit more spritely after a service these days, but I've had this issue since.

Never used to miss a beat back in the day, even in winter.

Goes away after a minute or so tho, never been too concerned, heck I'll probably want a new 4wd some day and I don't think the HJ60 will give in.

Then again i average 7000k's and 2 oil canges a year. :P I'll need new tyres in 10 years :)

Post by **beatle_bayly** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:20 pm

Try running some Chemtech through it.

Post by **Shadow** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:25 pm

plowy wrote:on older 60 series you wait after the glow light goes

and wait till you here a click from engine bay then start

see how that works

mine is an 89 and i still have to wait for the click so its not just older ones

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