Hell yes! Looking forward to round two!bigears wrote:well done to all who competed
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Marks 4wd Adaptors Erica Navnite 24th June 2006
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we were offered heaps of assistance from the marshalls, the fact was that my car was upside down resting against a tree and i wanted it back on its wheels. i opted to self recover although they asked many times if we needed another car down to help. they offered assistance and ideas while we got the car onto its wheels then helped us to winch the car to the top of the hill.
i have been a competitor for many years and i have never had a marshall say they wouldnt help out or offer some sort of assistance.
thanks to the marshalls and spectators that help us to recover the vehicle. the rebuild has started as we have 4 weeks before ateco
i have been a competitor for many years and i have never had a marshall say they wouldnt help out or offer some sort of assistance.
thanks to the marshalls and spectators that help us to recover the vehicle. the rebuild has started as we have 4 weeks before ateco
Well put Rudi.NavRun wrote:Mudmav, you have no right to comment as you were not there and you don't know what/ when / how the marshals are supposed to act under our event only myself & Hobzee know- end of story.
Marshals are in charge of their stage- full stop. This means in charge of everything including helping out your fellow man, being competitor/ spectator/ another marshal or civilian. Just like on my stage, Lockee's stage, Darren's stage, the list goes on.
Secondly, how do you know the price of there cars, it could have been a $5,000 car. Marshals ask us if they can help- they know exactly what their in for.
Marshals are volunteers and they do a fine job for us time after time- thanks guys because without you we have no events- lets make that very clear.
It was just unfortunate that this particular stage we were let down-- and you think I'm not pissed off about it!!!!!!!!!
Jonesy has summed it up well as with the other guys- so lets move on- hey!
Rudes
Well holly crap we must have missed some fun on ss2, we did hear of an 80 series having clutch trouble & witnessed the other 80 loosing the spare but didn't know of what all the fuss was about with the marshals etc. I was told this arvo I should check the web sight, wow lots of opinions flying left & right. I feel sorry for the marshals and the vehicle owners and arn't quite sure a public ear bashing / hanging is in order but I wasn't there so I will shut up about that. The other was a white GQ left behind by apparently more marshals not sure about that one but I do know that they were going to follow us out of the river but when we exited the DEEEEEP hole the GU was running on 3 cylinders & was in no shape to climb the river bank. So right on cue was the red bundy dropping in the river from opposite side who quickly went to the aid of the white GQ. Having eventually coaksed the GU from the water we limped into the finish box.
My opinion of the event was an absolute hoot, right on par with all the other Navnites & we had a ball kicking some high mount but with our sloooow mount 8 year old winch. My son Aaron of which this was his 1st winch event was also having a ball, who 6' 5" and was wet to his waist all night can't wait for the next one. He did a great job & will be gainfully employed for the next event. A 3rd outright made his day. After the water logging and the tree that got a bit of loving from us our repair bill is around $4000 but we will be ready for the next one. Well done Rudi and Hobzee and the volunteers we had a fab time, don't change a thing. Go in hard come out soft.
My opinion of the event was an absolute hoot, right on par with all the other Navnites & we had a ball kicking some high mount but with our sloooow mount 8 year old winch. My son Aaron of which this was his 1st winch event was also having a ball, who 6' 5" and was wet to his waist all night can't wait for the next one. He did a great job & will be gainfully employed for the next event. A 3rd outright made his day. After the water logging and the tree that got a bit of loving from us our repair bill is around $4000 but we will be ready for the next one. Well done Rudi and Hobzee and the volunteers we had a fab time, don't change a thing. Go in hard come out soft.
if you want it done properly do it yourself
Thanx Biders for pulling us out of ss2, without you it could of been a lot worse. As for mudmav go f@#ck yourself you have no idea what went on. The thing is with people like you, you get all your imformation second hand and act apon it. Grow up.
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Hey i dont see what all the who har is,stage 5 ,when we got it straightened out was pretty good I thought, and as for the recovery side of things we had two vehicles there at both ends of the stage and both were needed.I think that the situation could have easily been resolved by firsly ensuring there was a recovery vehicle at the stage and secondly that they were willing to use it for any job required.
I can see both sides of the coin as i have a GU and yes the're dear to buy and to fit out but i also use it as a 4wd and we competed in the Pahrana and did well coming 5th, but there are still limits to where i will take it,
and bonnet high water well i would probably think twice.
as for the situation last saterday night there is i big difference from not peforming a recovery and refusing to assist with one.
I think we need to remember that were all out there to have fun and a bit of preparation and some good organisation makes all the difference and be prepaired for the worst possible situation and just hope that it doesnt happen.
Cheers Darren
I can see both sides of the coin as i have a GU and yes the're dear to buy and to fit out but i also use it as a 4wd and we competed in the Pahrana and did well coming 5th, but there are still limits to where i will take it,
and bonnet high water well i would probably think twice.
as for the situation last saterday night there is i big difference from not peforming a recovery and refusing to assist with one.
I think we need to remember that were all out there to have fun and a bit of preparation and some good organisation makes all the difference and be prepaired for the worst possible situation and just hope that it doesnt happen.
Cheers Darren
Have a GU 4.2 td 5"lift 35'' mudzillas, twin lockers,incresed fuel and boost(20psi) exelant power, 3'' exhaust.
mudmav sux
As it was me who went back into recover Big Ears (White GQ) with his old man on Sunday at 3pm I guess I'm qualified to comment on the FACT.
A) SS1/2 Marshals did not assist when asked for help. They said it was not their job. One of them went and pulled the car along the road back to the start after the Mark's bundy had recovered it from the water. Onya Daniel - what a chick!!!
B) Hey mudmav .... Your friends not only abandonned Big Ears rig but also left Steve and Rachels brand new spare 35" simex, hi lift jack, shovel, axe and what was left of their rear wheel carrier next to a track. ... yes ... in the middle of bloody nowhere. We stumbled upon it by accident and low and behold $1000 of someone elses gear entrusted to the Marshals just left there. No mention of it to no one. SS1/2 Marshals at home in bed and a rig and valuable gear just left behind.
Dig your self out of this one mudmav ... one more comment from you and you can expect to be burried by everyone who reads this!
C) Apologies to Jase in the wet 80 - I had no intensions to bag his rig - just wanted to point out that the water was pre run by standard vehicles and it wasn't as bad as some people made out.
D) The water in the shallow end (some 50 feet from the action was barely hub depth)
E) We really do respect and cherrish the contributions made by our Marshals over the years. They do a sensational job and this might be the only time where a select 1 or 2 were different from the rest. Let there be no doubt that the Marshals are among the most respected and valued players in this sport.
BTW - took 2 60's strapped together at full noise to get Big Ears out. Lotsa mud in the air ...
Gonna be veeeery lonely out there mudmav when you break down ... oh yeh I forgot, you don't break down! Get a life and let us all enjoy our sport without you!
Next topic ....
A) SS1/2 Marshals did not assist when asked for help. They said it was not their job. One of them went and pulled the car along the road back to the start after the Mark's bundy had recovered it from the water. Onya Daniel - what a chick!!!
B) Hey mudmav .... Your friends not only abandonned Big Ears rig but also left Steve and Rachels brand new spare 35" simex, hi lift jack, shovel, axe and what was left of their rear wheel carrier next to a track. ... yes ... in the middle of bloody nowhere. We stumbled upon it by accident and low and behold $1000 of someone elses gear entrusted to the Marshals just left there. No mention of it to no one. SS1/2 Marshals at home in bed and a rig and valuable gear just left behind.
Dig your self out of this one mudmav ... one more comment from you and you can expect to be burried by everyone who reads this!C) Apologies to Jase in the wet 80 - I had no intensions to bag his rig - just wanted to point out that the water was pre run by standard vehicles and it wasn't as bad as some people made out.
D) The water in the shallow end (some 50 feet from the action was barely hub depth)
E) We really do respect and cherrish the contributions made by our Marshals over the years. They do a sensational job and this might be the only time where a select 1 or 2 were different from the rest. Let there be no doubt that the Marshals are among the most respected and valued players in this sport.
BTW - took 2 60's strapped together at full noise to get Big Ears out. Lotsa mud in the air ...
Gonna be veeeery lonely out there mudmav when you break down ... oh yeh I forgot, you don't break down! Get a life and let us all enjoy our sport without you!
Next topic ....
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DitoHobzee wrote: Next topic ....
[quote="Uhhohh"]As far as an indecent proposal goes, I'd accept nothing less than $100,000 to tolerate buggery. Any less and it's just not worth the psychological trauma. [/quote]
just to clear some stuff up guys and this is from the marshalls involved they asked me to jot this down last night as they have no access to this forum.
the marshall involved that was quoted as saying "its not my problem" actually said "it's not my problem for now we will deal with it when stage 1 is completed"
He said this because he was concerned that if he sent a vehicle back to recover bigears at that point in time their could have been a head on collision with a competitor, once he had fullfilled his obligations on ss2 and all the competitors (bar bigears) were clear he then sent ross carr and chris stagg (competitor) back to aid in the recovery of bigears. He made a judgement call as he felt that if he had sent a car back along the track at that point in time their could have been a head on collision, possibly resulting in a fatality or injury. He also mentioned that if their was a sweep car for this event as their is in many other events then we would not be having this argument at all.
As for leaving the bollards (Having trouble with the marshalls) The marshalls concerned contacted rudi the next morning as they could not fit this equipment in the back of their vehicles and organised to leave this equipment at the campsite which rudi ok'd. Furhter more they mentioned that marshalls were not provided with any sort of runnign sheet for the night nor stopwatches or even pen and paper.
the spare wheel left at the campsite was not agreed to by marshalls as they could not carry this equipment back out the next morning.
Dont shoot the messenger guys im just relaying.
credit were credit is due the marshalls for that stage should be commened for making a tough decision and avoiding apossible accident. without the expereince they have the decision may have been different as the outcome could have been an accident.
the marshall involved that was quoted as saying "its not my problem" actually said "it's not my problem for now we will deal with it when stage 1 is completed"
He said this because he was concerned that if he sent a vehicle back to recover bigears at that point in time their could have been a head on collision with a competitor, once he had fullfilled his obligations on ss2 and all the competitors (bar bigears) were clear he then sent ross carr and chris stagg (competitor) back to aid in the recovery of bigears. He made a judgement call as he felt that if he had sent a car back along the track at that point in time their could have been a head on collision, possibly resulting in a fatality or injury. He also mentioned that if their was a sweep car for this event as their is in many other events then we would not be having this argument at all.
As for leaving the bollards (Having trouble with the marshalls) The marshalls concerned contacted rudi the next morning as they could not fit this equipment in the back of their vehicles and organised to leave this equipment at the campsite which rudi ok'd. Furhter more they mentioned that marshalls were not provided with any sort of runnign sheet for the night nor stopwatches or even pen and paper.
the spare wheel left at the campsite was not agreed to by marshalls as they could not carry this equipment back out the next morning.
Dont shoot the messenger guys im just relaying.
credit were credit is due the marshalls for that stage should be commened for making a tough decision and avoiding apossible accident. without the expereince they have the decision may have been different as the outcome could have been an accident.
andrewholmes
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i agree!!Ruffy wrote:DitoHobzee wrote: Next topic ....
anyone got a roof for a GQ ute???
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Good luck with the repairs - we would hate for you to miss the Ateco.krimnl wrote:anyone got a roof for a GQ ute???
Warn - Dont leave home without it
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Bloody oath darren hope u get it all sorted!TRobbo wrote:Good luck with the repairs - we would hate for you to miss the Ateco.krimnl wrote:anyone got a roof for a GQ ute???
Would love to see u at ateco aswell! Re: mudmav sux
we are working flat out on it , we have some mechanical issues aswell.TRobbo wrote:Good luck with the repairs - we would hate for you to miss the Ateco.krimnl wrote:anyone got a roof for a GQ ute???
looks like we will have to miss out on the working bee,s
but we are giving it our best shot!
Posted on behalf of Steve Graham- marshal for the night and regular competitor of our events:
Dear Steve (Hobzee)
Just a breif note to say a really big thank you for all your help on
Sunday after I had the misfortune of becoming stranded in a difficult location near Erica. With broken steering I was going nowhere. Not only did you locate a spare part for me late on Sunday, transport me around 100 km to get the part, but came back very late (around 10pm) to help me make the repairs.
I'm sure you didn't get home until after 1am as I arrived home after 2am,
but without your help it would have been at least 24 hours later.
I admire your dedication to 4wding, and ensuring no-one is left "Up the
creek without a paddle(steering)".
Regards, Steve Graham
Dear Steve (Hobzee)
Just a breif note to say a really big thank you for all your help on
Sunday after I had the misfortune of becoming stranded in a difficult location near Erica. With broken steering I was going nowhere. Not only did you locate a spare part for me late on Sunday, transport me around 100 km to get the part, but came back very late (around 10pm) to help me make the repairs.
I'm sure you didn't get home until after 1am as I arrived home after 2am,
but without your help it would have been at least 24 hours later.
I admire your dedication to 4wding, and ensuring no-one is left "Up the
creek without a paddle(steering)".
Regards, Steve Graham
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Best of luck with the rebuild Krimnal, can't wait to give you boys a run with the mighty 2F 
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thanks , its proving to be a fair bit of workmatt.mcinnes wrote:Best of luck with the rebuild Krimnal, can't wait to give you boys a run with the mighty 2F
the front is all pulled out and repaired , starting on the roof saturday morning , hopefully should have a windscreen in it monday
I appogise to all the compeditors and all the good marshals, please accept my sincere appologises.
I say it again- end of story.
Rudes[/b]
I say it again- end of story.
Rudes[/b]
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Daisy wrote:Ok fellas...
this thread got a little out of hand... and i have deleted a couple of posts.
Please keep it civil and if any insult is directed at a member, you will be put on the band bus.
any problems.. PM me please.
TOM
Thanks Daisy... It was needed.[quote="Uhhohh"]As far as an indecent proposal goes, I'd accept nothing less than $100,000 to tolerate buggery. Any less and it's just not worth the psychological trauma. [/quote]
hi all.. i know the requirmentsa are ruffly that you have to have a winch and a registered vehicle.
but i was wondering weathere people who hav competed in thses nav run nights could give me some honest advice about the following
i have a 92 hilux 35 inch silverstone extreams under a 6 inch lift ,lowmount winch,standare 2.8 diesel engine, rock sliders . and a few little other extras lights. icom cb, stuff like that .
and a fare bit of 4wd experience, club acredited certificates for safe recovery capabilities and 4wding
.(lol i no sounds a bit lame but thought id through it in,
anywhoo i am very interested in entering a toolangi style nav run night and want to no weather this would be a wise idea or is my 4x4 to stock or its simply not worth it .
i wont be out to win but to have a good time. with mates who want to enter two
thanks.. any info or thoughts welcome
but i was wondering weathere people who hav competed in thses nav run nights could give me some honest advice about the following
i have a 92 hilux 35 inch silverstone extreams under a 6 inch lift ,lowmount winch,standare 2.8 diesel engine, rock sliders . and a few little other extras lights. icom cb, stuff like that .
and a fare bit of 4wd experience, club acredited certificates for safe recovery capabilities and 4wding
.(lol i no sounds a bit lame but thought id through it in,
anywhoo i am very interested in entering a toolangi style nav run night and want to no weather this would be a wise idea or is my 4x4 to stock or its simply not worth it .
i wont be out to win but to have a good time. with mates who want to enter two
thanks.. any info or thoughts welcome
Big thanks to Northern Suburbs Radiators and Melbourne Drive Shafts and Balancing for all your help and support.
the only thing you seem to be missing is a locker or two, otherwise i'd say your good to go!
Bring ya sense of humour and a change of clothes
Bring ya sense of humour and a change of clothes
[quote="Uhhohh"]As far as an indecent proposal goes, I'd accept nothing less than $100,000 to tolerate buggery. Any less and it's just not worth the psychological trauma. [/quote]
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