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Upgrading the A/T's

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Upgrading the A/T's

Post by gardy »

Hey guys im getting rid of my current tires and going for full mudders i would like to know the biggest tyre i can go on a standard 92 feroza with the swaybar removed and any recommendations on what sort of tyre i should get gonna spend about $1200 want the best ones i can get for that,

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Post by HotFourOk »

Do you still want to be able to drive them on road a bit? Becuase the best mudders won't really like this.

I wouldn't go much more than a 30x9.5x15 tyre, with regards to guard clearance and gearing.

I would opt for an MTR if you will use it on the street...

If pure offroad, you can't really get Boggers to fit under, though Swampers come in 29" and 31" sizes. Even MT Claws are a favourite... In a Bias ply of course :twisted:

For 1200, you could get some 30" MTRs with new, wider offset rims.. would look good :D
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Post by gardy »

i will be using them mostly onnroad but would still like decent mudders i know they will wear out quicker but it's a price i'm willing to pay to throw that awesome roost
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Post by HotFourOk »

gardy wrote:i will be using them mostly onnroad
Goodyear Wrangler MT/R - 30x9.5x15.

End of discussion :D
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Post by gardy »

No worries i will go give them a look one of my mates has them,look tough just hope they don't rub.

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Post by HeathGQ »

HotFourOk wrote:
gardy wrote:i will be using them mostly onnroad
Goodyear Wrangler MT/R - 30x9.5x15.

End of discussion :D
I dont agree, but I dont entirely disagree. I had BFG Muddies 30 x 9.5.... excellent wear out of them, probably due to the light weight vehicle. drove well. Not dramas in the wet, etc...
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Post by gardy »

Goodyear,Bf's,Coopers i think there is a few good tyres out there trial end error i think i will try them all over the years i think
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Post by RockyF75 »

gardy wrote:Hey guys im getting rid of my current tires and going for full mudders
MTR's might be the greatest thing since IFS :roll: but they sure as hell aint mudders Hot4 :D

You want mud tyres, that will be ok on road, but not great, just get any MT, they are essentially very similar, only wear rates differ. Best to just look at the patterns and pick the most aggressive one. Although if i was going a full mud tyre i'd go Simex centipede's, or Monoform Mongrels, as good as boggers/swampers are, they aint road legal ;)

My mate currently has Sumitomo Sarenghetti's (SP ? :? ) on his rocky and, well, they rock :D Look almost as aggressive as pedes, got em in a 30" IIRC for $150ea
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Post by Master_Buster »

i have a 2inch lifted 92 feroza widetrac and standard rims with Goodyear MTR'S 30 X 9.5 AND I AM MORE THAN IMPRESSED. the grip in the mud is well past what the at's could do.
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Post by gardy »

i went and priced some cooper ATT's mudders they cost $260.00 a tyre so it's a toss up between them and the MTr's
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Post by Mudsierra »

I got Wrangler MTR on my roza, sizes are 30x 9.5 on stock rims. R15, has them on the car for everyday driving and out of the blue wheeling moments.. costed me 1050ish 2 years ago for set of 5. a tyre itself would be at 260ish but got discount for buying 5 tyres.

Got them when the car has 121,000 now still going at 158,000 i'd say they have lifespan for my driving habits of about 40,000km. If ur a smoother driver, u'd get more out of it.

I am pleased with them, great in mud, great on the dry road but not so good in the rain, they tend to lock and skid even if u didn't brake hard.
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Post by HotFourOk »

RockyF70 wrote:
gardy wrote:Hey guys im getting rid of my current tires and going for full mudders
MTR's might be the greatest thing since IFS :roll: but they sure as hell aint mudders Hot4 :D
Then again, a STOCK Feroza isn't really a full mud weapon Nath... :roll:

Why take a stock standard car and throw comp mud tyres on it :D
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Post by RockyF75 »

HotFourOk wrote:
RockyF70 wrote:
gardy wrote:Hey guys im getting rid of my current tires and going for full mudders
MTR's might be the greatest thing since IFS :roll: but they sure as hell aint mudders Hot4 :D
Then again, a STOCK Feroza isn't really a full mud weapon Nath... :roll:

Why take a stock standard car and throw comp mud tyres on it :D
Compensation? :D
I dunno, ask gardy, he's the one that asked for 'full mudders'.
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Post by lay80n »

MTR's are great on the road. Having owned MTR's, bfg, khumo's as well as tsl/sx swampers, MTR's win road section hands down. In the mud swampers obviously win hands down, but then the bfg muds, then the mtr's. Khumo's were average, but there were worn so hard to judge. On the rocks the swampers again, then the mtr's. Then bfg Muds. The mtr's are probably a better bet if your not doing heaps of mud and want to use them on the road all the time. They wear well and are good to drive on, balancing up okay. My brother runs MTR's on his roza ( 29 inch , or whatever that equates to in metric) and they go excellent, fit on standard rim and without major suspension work. Oh and shop round more if your getting quoted those prices, you can buy 33 MTR's for that.

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Post by Mudsierra »

HotFourOk:
Why take a stock standard car and throw comp mud tyres on it
To avoid getting bogged often? :roll:
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Post by gardy »

As for wanting full mudders i did not mean comp tyres just wanted to get a decent set of mud terrains,Feroza won't stay stock forever only got it a few months ago suspension and body lift on the way.
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gardy wrote:As for wanting full mudders i did not mean comp tyres just wanted to get a decent set of mud terrains,Feroza won't stay stock forever only got it a few months ago suspension and body lift on the way.
Get the tyres after you lift it... So you can put bigger ones on
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Post by Mudsierra »

X2
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Post by RockyF75 »

x3

Or get an angle grinder :D

I'f your really impatient and want mudders now, then lift, then bigger mudders, i can reccomend Monoform Ground Hogs. ~$100ea, really agressive but they are remoulds, only lasted me a year before they where nearly slicks. That was with alot of raod kays.
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Post by gregie »

why do want muddies for on road? keep your old rims and just use mud tyres for mud. unless you like tossing money away. two sets of wheels saves big dollars after not much time at all. as for best m/t simex bye a country mile!!!
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Post by HotFourOk »

The reason I went for MTR was allround performance... and I didn't go a dedicated offroad tyre due to:

-I couldn't be stuffed changing tyres each time i go 4x4ing

-I don't have enough space in my place for 4/5 tyres and rims

-Some places to go 4x4ing are heaps far away, and driving on dedicated offroad tyres isn't always the best... like Bias tyres, Boggers or Swampers :P

-I love the sexy look of MTRs on my beast all the time :armsup:


I do agree Centipede's would be a good mud tyre choice... thats about it though.. lol :D
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Post by Master_Buster »

I paid $225 each for 4 x MTR's 30 x 9.5 x r15 standard fez rims

love them and won't be trying anything else until they are bald

as for going bigger i was thinking of going to 31's but after the last trip to the bush i think the loss in low range power could be too much, having to use momentum instead of crawling over rocky rutted hill climbs is not good on various parts of the car and your anatomy ( still got a bruise on the top of my noggin )

i would like to know what is available in a wider than 9.5 mud tyre but still keeps a maximum of 30 inch diameter so i can fill out the flares a bit better?
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Re: Changing the A/Ts

Post by rockzilla »

HeathGQ wrote:
HotFourOk wrote:
gardy wrote:i will be using them mostly onnroad
Goodyear Wrangler MT/R - 30x9.5x15.

End of discussion :D
I dont agree, but I dont entirely disagree. I had BFG Muddies 30 x 9.5.... excellent wear out of them, probably due to the light weight vehicle. drove well. Not dramas in the wet, etc...
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Post by Bowhunter »

I have a set of Pro comp X terrains (see signature for specs) :twisted:

They were on there when I purchased the car. Thus far have really done sweet F A off roading in the whole scheme of things however have been most impressed with the wearing of them given the huge amount of bitumen work they've been getting :D

They go hard off road...when it counts :armsup:

I'll probably get them again :P


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