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4x4 with No Shocks on Car Trailer - Remove Coils?

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4x4 with No Shocks on Car Trailer - Remove Coils?

Post by TWISTY »

Well next weekend I'll be towing my zook up to Custom 4x4 Fabrications at Hervey Bay so the piece of sh!t finally gets underway.

Just got a quick question, the zook is sitting rather tall and on 37's at the moment and has no shocks fitted (very bouncy!). I will be ratchet strapping the chassis down to the trailer anyway, but am wondering if it having no shocks will cause any dramas?

Would it be better to just drop the springs out so it has no movement at all? (I'll also take the windscreen off, so its a little more streamline)

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Post by Daisy »

shoudnt be any dramas doin that..

if you're more concerned...

buy a coulpa small rachet straps.. and strap your chassis to the diffs and compress them a bit so that it wont bounce around so much.. and then use bigger ones to strap the chassis to the trailer.
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Post by Roctoy »

don't remove the springs, maybe just strap the car down by the diff's then strap the body down separately to stop the body moving around.

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Post by MissDrew »

Just tie her down, but then let her tie you down :twisted:

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Post by RockyF75 »

umm, this may be a stoopid question, but if you remove the coils... whats holding it together :? Driveshafts??
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Post by chimpboy »

The shocks would not really add much in that context. I think what you are planning sounds okay as is. Could consider letting the tyres down a bit to keep everything lower down.
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Post by Miraz »

Strap the tyres to the trailer bed - do the ratchets up nice and tight and the tyres will keep the whole thing under tension and stop it working loose during the trip.

If you want to get fancy then use a shackle or d-ring to loop the ratchet round the front and back of the tyre before tying it down.

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Post by TWISTY »

RockyF70 wrote:umm, this may be a stoopid question, but if you remove the coils... whats holding it together :? Driveshafts??
It's coil sprung, not leaf, so with the coils removed the control arms are all still keeping everything in place and the chassis would just rest on the diffs.



Thanks for the info all.....I'll leave the coils in.....Actually just remember I've got a lower set, so will fit them, then just strap the chassis right down with a couple of ratchet straps.........Can't wait for this to actually get started..... :D
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Post by HotFourOk »

TWISTY_TOY94 wrote:
RockyF70 wrote:umm, this may be a stoopid question, but if you remove the coils... whats holding it together :? Driveshafts??
It's coil sprung, not leaf, so with the coils removed the control arms are all still keeping everything in place and the chassis would just rest on the diffs.
Nathan doesn't know about coils yet... He's stuck in 1984 :finger:

I reckon strap the chassis down, and then put enough tension on the body to stop the excess bobbing due to having no shocks.
Don't strap the body down too hard tho, compressing the springs too much can be harmful.

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Post by toughnut »

You don't care about tieing the zuk on the trailer. Anyone can see that this was a cheap attempt at getting your girly to pose for the camera :D Tie the body to the trailer with rope or staps. It won't move too much ;)
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Post by TWISTY »

HotFourOk wrote:Don't strap the body down too hard tho, compressing the springs too much can be harmful.
Airshox are going on :D so no need to worry about damaging the coils.... :armsup:
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Post by gone fishin »

Dave, just tie it down from the diffs, and then run a seperate strap to control body roll, we towed the Mav back from Sydney with a 6" lift in it and it didn't roll around too much.
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Post by TWISTY »

gone fishin wrote:Dave, just tie it down from the diffs, and then run a seperate strap to control body roll, we towed the Mav back from Sydney with a 6" lift in it and it didn't roll around too much.
Cool as Ash......I just went and bought two new big fark off ratchet straps....so should be all sweet!!


In case you's can't tell I haven't had that much experience with towing, so I've just got one last question....Since installing the cruiser coils in the rear of the 4runner (over 4" lift), the sway bar no longer fits as the link pins aren't long enough......should I get the link pins lengthed and refit the sway bar before towing? Or will having no rear sway bar cause any dramas while towing?
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Post by Dane »

Sway/anti roll bars are there for a reason. The more you lift and de-stabilise your tow vehicle, the less suitable it is for towing. At least refit the sway bar.
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Post by BundyMonkey »

TWISTY_TOY94 wrote:
gone fishin wrote:Dave, just tie it down from the diffs, and then run a seperate strap to control body roll, we towed the Mav back from Sydney with a 6" lift in it and it didn't roll around too much.
Cool as Ash......I just went and bought two new big fark off ratchet straps....so should be all sweet!!


In case you's can't tell I haven't had that much experience with towing, so I've just got one last question....Since installing the cruiser coils in the rear of the 4runner (over 4" lift), the sway bar no longer fits as the link pins aren't long enough......should I get the link pins lengthed and refit the sway bar before towing? Or will having no rear sway bar cause any dramas while towing?
Hope they are better than the ones you got to tow it out to cruiser :roll: :shock:
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Post by TWISTY »

BundyMonkey wrote:Hope they are better than the ones you got to tow it out to cruiser :roll: :shock:
100 times better Andrew......there is no handbrake on the zook to hold it on if they snap this time, so got quality fawkers instead of Bunnings Shit!!!
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Post by GRINCH »

i would put the sway bars in and tie the zuk down tight so theres no body roll.
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