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Which Surf or 4-Runner to get???
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ahh sweet. I was thinking the price fell out further than that. Im thinking of selling the wifes runner with a 22R and straight LPG ( efi manifold ) .mattyd wrote:Keep looking, they are everywhere in Sydney.
Just last week there was a 1995 model 4runner RV6 (that's the 3 litre V6 engine, no electric windows or mirrors, just standard) for sale at a Tempe 2nd hand car dealer for $4999. Apparently it lasted on the lot for all of 2 hours after trade in though :(. I missed it.
Matt
cant justify having 2 4wd's and i like my old skool patrol more than her runner
ANy1 know how much a std 22r 90 model is worth these days. has ARB bar, rebuilt motor, 120 amp alt, etc
cheers
The back end of mine is basically the same as yours at the moment. I got hold of a Hilux rear bar/towbar and just going to modify the mounts to tuck it up close to the bodywork.-Nemesis- wrote:I want to get a custom one more like the Hilux tube bars so I can keep the max departure angle like I currently have:
If God did not intend for us to eat animals, then why did he make them out of meat?
One day I will learn to put quotes in.
But to the guy who asked why I wouldn't take a 4 Runner outback.
It's just my opinion. I suppose you could be right, long range tank may be all thats needed.
Has anyone done a big trip like Canning or the cape in an IFS runner
Cheers struth.
PS buy a 4 Runner, they are capable with some basic mods, that much I know.
But to the guy who asked why I wouldn't take a 4 Runner outback.
It's just my opinion. I suppose you could be right, long range tank may be all thats needed.
Has anyone done a big trip like Canning or the cape in an IFS runner
Cheers struth.
PS buy a 4 Runner, they are capable with some basic mods, that much I know.
No... but it sounds like you might be closer to owning a 4RunnerDan & Tanya wrote:does anyone know of a good place to get a turbokit for the 2.8 diesel 4-runner?
The runners look a lot better than I thought they would with no rear bar. It certainly gives you a much better departure angle. I have always thought that you would be able to craft something from a Hilux rear bar. Post it up if you do it
For me, I do a lot of towing and camping with the family so the Kaymar is great....... Especially for accessing the roof basket(some do not like the No. plate position). It wasn?t cheap but I have had it for years...... Fuel savings paid for it.I just want a 2inch body lift and ball joint spacers on top of my 3inch suspension. Then lift up the gas tank and I will be happy (I?m sure many have said that before adding a few more inches).
Heres my rear end????
I think the new ones go around the side....... mine keeps the factory sides.
Nemesis...... if my V6 ever gives it up?.. A Lexus V8 will be my choice of replacement (maybee even before it dies) J
Never done a big trip like Canning or the Cape..... not in an IFS 4runner anyway
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I just want a 2inch body lift and ball joint spacers on top of my 3inch suspension. Then lift up the gas tank and I will be happy
Dont waste your money on the ifs save it and get the ifs cut out.
The body lift is so easy your mother could do it the hardest part of yours will be raising that nice rear bar you got there and the bonus of the body lift is you now have the bolts to raise the tank.And while your at it raise the engine 3.5" so that low sitting transfer case is nice and high
If you dont have panel damage you ain't trying hard enough
i got quoted $10,000 for a brand new, in the box 1KZ-TE, with EVERYTHING- including the loom!
Im SERIOUSLY considering it instead of a turbo and rebuild for my 2.8D- which after i drop $3000 rebuilding the motor, $1000 doing the pump, $3500 for the turbo kit, $1500 to intercool it.... really adds up!
Im SERIOUSLY considering it instead of a turbo and rebuild for my 2.8D- which after i drop $3000 rebuilding the motor, $1000 doing the pump, $3500 for the turbo kit, $1500 to intercool it.... really adds up!
2005 HDJ100 Manual, ARB bar, XD9000 winch, ARB rooftop tent + awning, Drawers, Engel, 2" OME lift, 285/75R16 KM2's, iCom, HID XGT's.
It's not just the idea that sounds goodYumsylux wrote:That lexus v8 sounds a nice idea too.
Right click Save as:
Turn it up for the last few seconds, doesn't sound Japanese. Ignore the bloke in the background
http://www.users.on.net/~bryntrace/4Runner/1UZ.avi
Love listening to it climbing:
http://www.users.on.net/~bryntrace/1UZF ... imbing.avi
And full noise (Quicktime vid):
http://www.users.on.net/~bryntrace/1UZF ... t/Sand.MOV
ps... That was with less lift and 33's.
Lovin the FZJ105-T, bling by Ryano
my opinion:
4RUNNER
I had a 2.4TD and had problems galor. Bought this about 8 months ago and enjoying it. This is the SR5 Limited V6 soon to be duel fuel. I have also recently changed my front bullbar to a steel winch bar.
4RUNNER
I had a 2.4TD and had problems galor. Bought this about 8 months ago and enjoying it. This is the SR5 Limited V6 soon to be duel fuel. I have also recently changed my front bullbar to a steel winch bar.
~1993 Toyota 4Runner V6~
2" Suspension Lift - HD TowBar - Safari Snokel - Sound System - Driving lights - Dual battery - 2" Bodylift - Diff Breathers - 33's and 32's - Winch bar - Front LOKKA
2" Suspension Lift - HD TowBar - Safari Snokel - Sound System - Driving lights - Dual battery - 2" Bodylift - Diff Breathers - 33's and 32's - Winch bar - Front LOKKA
I guess some serious points would be,
Which has more power and torque V6 or 2.8 TD. I would be interested to know the figures myself, I beleive the V6 is 109 Kw but no idea on torque.
Do 4 Runners have 2.8 Td or is this Surf only.
The surfs have a lot of bang for bucks re electrics.
Backup on Aus delivered 4 Runners is better from toyota dealers. I have heard that they get a bit stressed when you say Surf.
I think insurance is cheaper for 4 runners as well.
Are there any differences in low range gearing between models.
I have found the V6 to be reliable as (14 yrs old) starts everytime first time and never plays up. Are the diesals as user freindly.
Try to get something with factory flares because they cover some pretty wide rubber.
Good luck and as you know a lot of people see 4 Runners and Surfs as a good choice.
Cheers Struth.
Which has more power and torque V6 or 2.8 TD. I would be interested to know the figures myself, I beleive the V6 is 109 Kw but no idea on torque.
Do 4 Runners have 2.8 Td or is this Surf only.
The surfs have a lot of bang for bucks re electrics.
Backup on Aus delivered 4 Runners is better from toyota dealers. I have heard that they get a bit stressed when you say Surf.
I think insurance is cheaper for 4 runners as well.
Are there any differences in low range gearing between models.
I have found the V6 to be reliable as (14 yrs old) starts everytime first time and never plays up. Are the diesals as user freindly.
Try to get something with factory flares because they cover some pretty wide rubber.
Good luck and as you know a lot of people see 4 Runners and Surfs as a good choice.
Cheers Struth.
surf v 4runner
I've been into the hiluxes and surfs for a few years now and, there isn't much in it if you ask me. I use mine 85% road/commute everyday use, 10% beach, 5% mud/offroad use. and the surf (93 2.4 td auto) does it well, 10l/100km fuel economy, auto is fantastic in the sand, I rate it as the most comfortable user friendly 4x4 for the money I've ever owned. It seems as easy to drive around as a 93 corolla, looks the same inside.
I bought mine off ebay for $4000 with no motor as it had been destroyed by previous owner, I bought a writeoff for $1500 and fitted the motor, while it was out, I put new timing belt and idlers on, water pump, removed EGR completely and cleaned the black soot and gunk out of the intake manifold. I fitted a plain 4 core radiator and a separate trannie cooler to fix the overheating issues that everyone bangs on about. I fitted a set of freewheeling hubs as well just to save the CV's and fuel.
I looked a 4 runners, but by the time I put flares on, rear wheel carrier etc it was too dear.
So if you want off road ability go the solid axle LN106 dual cab, if you want simple tech go the 4 runners, but if you have a degree of mechanical aptitude and common sense as well as liking all the fruit, fast glass, sunroof, flares, alloys, etc and don't really need the extreme offroad ability go the surf.
As for parts, not an issue really, bit of a furphy by the "old cars are best" crowd, nearly all the parts are the same and there is a great website surf australia forum with heaps of great info.
so I am a bit biased, but so far no grief with the surf at all for me, but heaps do have engine problems, due to poor maintenance, and if you don't have any mechanical aptitude, the spanner gorillas out there bend you over when they see an "import", so careful shopping I guess
I bought mine off ebay for $4000 with no motor as it had been destroyed by previous owner, I bought a writeoff for $1500 and fitted the motor, while it was out, I put new timing belt and idlers on, water pump, removed EGR completely and cleaned the black soot and gunk out of the intake manifold. I fitted a plain 4 core radiator and a separate trannie cooler to fix the overheating issues that everyone bangs on about. I fitted a set of freewheeling hubs as well just to save the CV's and fuel.
I looked a 4 runners, but by the time I put flares on, rear wheel carrier etc it was too dear.
So if you want off road ability go the solid axle LN106 dual cab, if you want simple tech go the 4 runners, but if you have a degree of mechanical aptitude and common sense as well as liking all the fruit, fast glass, sunroof, flares, alloys, etc and don't really need the extreme offroad ability go the surf.
As for parts, not an issue really, bit of a furphy by the "old cars are best" crowd, nearly all the parts are the same and there is a great website surf australia forum with heaps of great info.
so I am a bit biased, but so far no grief with the surf at all for me, but heaps do have engine problems, due to poor maintenance, and if you don't have any mechanical aptitude, the spanner gorillas out there bend you over when they see an "import", so careful shopping I guess
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